Random Notes

Friday, November 30, 2007

Clubhouse Sale

Looking for a White Sox gift and a very unique place to buy it?  You might want to check out SportsService’s holiday sale this weekend INSIDE the White Sox clubhouse, a place fans rarely see.

I just walked in from the clubhouse and was stunned by the crowd of fans and customers buying early Xmas gifts.  The visiting clubhouse (CWS Charities items) and home clubhouse are both open.

Jacket
Discounted merchandise and unique access at U.S. Cellular Field are on tap during the team’s first ever "Clubhouse Sale." New, officially licensed team merchandise will be marked down 20 to 50 percent and sold in the White Sox home clubhouse, an area of the ballpark rarely visited by fans.

Among the items you can purchase is the brand new 2008 White Sox team jacket, which MLB debuted during the World Series with the Red Sox and Rockies.

The Clubhouse Sale takes place on: Friday, November 30, 2:00 to 6:00 p.m.; Saturday, December 1, 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.; and Sunday, December 2, 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. On Saturday, White Sox Weekly – The Score Radio (670 AM) show dedicated to White Sox topics – will broadcast live from the visiting clubhouse from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m.

Fans planning to attend the Clubhouse Sale should park their vehicles in Lot E and enter U.S. Cellular Field through the Stadium Club entrance, located between Gates 2 and 3. The cost of admission is $5, which is then good towards a purchase at the Clubhouse Sale. A portion of the weekend’s proceeds go to Chicago White Sox Charities, the organization’s philanthropic arm.

Legacy Bricks, benefitting White Sox Charities, will be available for purchase during the Friday and Saturday hours of the Clubhouse Sale – with the deadline to purchase bricks set for 5 p.m. on Saturday.

Chicago White Sox Charities provides annual financial, in-kind and emotional support to hundreds of Chicago-based organizations, including those leading the fight against cancer or dedicated to improving the lives of Chicago’s youth through education and athletics.

Hot Stove League

Some random biased thoughts on happenings to date:

Somewhat surprised that we have obtained the AL’s Gold Glove shortstop (replacing the much-criticized Juan Uribe) and the best middle reliever on the free agent market (Scott Linebrink) and some people are disappointed.

It’s only November 30, the Winter Meetings are next week, so please, it’s a little early to draw conclusions of any type.  I have a hard time believing our team isn’t better than 2007, right now.  Judge teams on Feb. 15.

On Torii Hunter … we certainly were surprised and disappointed that he signed with the Angels.  The surprise is more that the Angels became involved at the last moment at dollars well beyond the next best offer.  Rather than wait through the holiday to make a decision, Torii made the call late that Wednesday night.  That was surprising.  But whenever you are dealing with free agents, you never know for certain that you have a player until he is signed. (Remember with Jermaine Dye that even while he was in the doctor’s office having a physical, other teams were trying to top our offer.  To JD’s credit, he stuck to his word and his handshake).

Scott Merkin’s last mailbag does a great job of responding to a question about Hunter.

Which leads to Linebrink.  We always wait until after a free agent player has signed and passed his physical before we announce anything official.  This sometimes leads to cases where rumors and speculation last a few days.  But we are always going to be safe.  I have several old, old press releases in my computer — one for Mark Grace — that never saw the light to day because a signing that seemed imminent eventually fell apart.

And on Aaron Rowand … check out Merkin’s interview with Aaron about his love of Chicago and plans as a free agent.  Critics always like to point out former players who are critical of their last organization (whether ours or others).  Here’s yet another guy who still loves Chicago, Sox fans and the Sox.

Rumors

It’s time for my annual reminder, especially heading into the winter meetings, to take the hourly rumors and speculation for what it is.

Remember the he’s-staying, he’s-going Mark Buehrle saga?  Remember the Torii Hunter articles recently?

Rumors will fly around the lobby in Nashville.  Some have a hint of truth.  Some are intentionally complete fabrications to misled, misinform other teams or make a team appear to be more aggressive/active than it really is.  Media reps do their jobs trying to track down and report the truth, but often, reports and rumors are only half-true, are dated by the time they see the light of day or again, are just plan wrong.

Don’t allow yourself to get too high or too low over the coming weeks based on reports.

StrongestbrandCongrats

To former Cubs President John McDonough of the Blackhawks on his new post as club President.  Maybe now he can root for his childhood team, the White Sox.

Congrats too on White Sox fans, who in a recent poll by Turnkey Sports (right) and reported in Sports Business Journal, voted the White Sox 55th among all sports franchises for "Strongest Brand."  The Chicago teams ranked 13th (Bears), 48th (Bulls), 55th (Sox), 67th (Cubs) and 115th (Blackhawks).

"The Bears are a legacy brand — traditional, respected," said Turnkey President & CEO Len Perna.  "But the White Sox are the real brand story here.  The Sox are perceived as better managed than the Cubs, hungrier, more aggressive and more attuned to fans.  They beat the Cubs in team popularity, fan loyalty, grade of ownership, sponsor loyalty and almost every other measure.  Wow!"

Rudie Schaffer

There were some terrific memorials in the media to Rudie Schaffer, Bill Veeck’s longtime right-hand man, who passed away on Tuesday at age 96.  See the release on whitesox.com for some wonderful comments by Mary Frances Veeck, who was gracious to offer her thoughts about Schaffer.

Rudie’s son, David, has been our Senior Director of Ballpark Operations for 32 years.  He shares his dad’s passion for baseball and for the fans.

Winter Meetings

Heading to Nashville on Sunday for a week of meetings, briefings, hours in KW’s suite waiting for scouts and other club’s to call back on trade talks and Thursday’s Rule 5 Draft.  Exciting stuff.  I’ll try to keep you posted as best I can.

Ozzie calls the winter meetings, "A big high school reunion," where everyone hugs you and says hello, how ya doing, but doesn’t really care.

I call it Roland Hemond’s annual party (since everyone there loves Roland and has one degree of separation from the man).

Bad Day

You know when your Friday starts with a 7:45 am car accident (kids were OK), your day can only get better …

But

Then you hear a radio commercial for insurance where the announcer says, "We can insure anyone.  We even insured a 40-year-old man with high blood pressure."

Great, thanks.  Must be some other baseball PR guy.

 

99 Comments

It’s not so much the moves the Sox have made that irritate me. It’s Kenny claiming the Sox are in a “great” position. And yes Scott, it is good that the Sox added a Gold Glover at SS. But they gave up a top end starting pitcher to acquire him. So the Sox are now lacking in the SP department.

I just don’t want to hear how great of a position the Sox are in when they clearly are not. The teams in the Central haven’t gotten any worse have they? In fact, some have gotten better.

And yes, I’m willing to give Kenny more time before I make my judgments. Just don’t be blowing smoke up our rear apertures.

kris…Exactly WHERE in Macomb should I send the billing for your payment for used of the term “rear aperture”?…I believe the terminology is “use of intellectual property”…

Jon Garland was decent given the fact that he could pitch a lot of innings, but he was a guy who had only one good year. Remember, wins are not an accurate way to measure how good a pitcher is. He was not good in ’06. But in the opinion of most non-White Sox fans he is definitely not a “top end starting pitcher” (not good enough to be a 1,2 starter most years for most AL teams). Lots of people outside of this fanbase think he’s overrated.

Most people around the nation viewed the Sox as getting the better end of the Garland-Cabrera deal. But I do understand the concern for our starting pitching, I have a feeling we’ll be acquiring a new pitcher through a trade.

However, I still DO see why you can be annoyed by Kenny’s “great position” statement. If we don’t pull much more off you should be unhappy with that deceiving comment. Lets hope we do something big that doesn’t involve Aaron Rowand.

Sorry about the car accident….

Well, I think we’re in a great position. The NL is full of mediocrity (I know…. 2001, 2003, 2006). The Contenders are the Angels, NY, BoSox, the AL Central will be tough to call, but in my opinion has been so up and down in recent seasons, it is a nut that can be cracked. Chicago may have had a bad season, but we;

look to get competitive and should be moreso after this offseason if Kenny does his thing well,

don’t wear dufus-royal-cubbie-blue,

have a payroll that may increase moderately,

and if coaching does its thing will get a different style of play out of these guys.

Add in some new clubhouse presences who are team players you just may get a good mixture that may help.

Then toss in minor league pitching talent that is both serviceable and controllable with small market teams such as Tampa and Florida (for instance) interested, well, we’ll see. We got a good potential core, it’s not just the individuals, its the team. Last year, not much to see, buncha guys failing individually. This year, I think it will be different.

Anywho, Trib had an article on Fukudome and Jason Bay of Pittsburgh and the Sox showing interest. But aren’t the Japanese leagues like AA ball? But hey, who knows…

Rowand likes Greg Walker? And the Bears? Maybe he’ll be reasonable….

Hope Santana doesn’t go to Boston. Yanks, better step up. Oh and Girardi working with/for Steinbrenner and Co. Was that a well thought out plan?

Okay, my randomness is done for the day….

I agree with the notion that we should all wait before passing final judgement on the team and the moves. It is very early in the “game” yet.

I do however also agree with those commenting on Kenny’s comments. In my case I’m remembering a few weeks ago Kenny talking about landing “a big fish.”

Then just a few days ago he speaks about “having options” named Ownes, Anderson and Sweeney for the outfield.

My immediate impression was that Kenny was ‘backtracking’, trying to tone down expectations because of difficulties that weren’t expected.

Once a statement is made you can’t take it back. I know, I’ve been there (so have we all!.)

Given this past season, how upset, angry and disappointed Sox fans were and the multiple holes on this roster right now, everyone in the organization needs to be careful with what they say.

Rightly or wrongly fans begin to make assumptions based on those comments.

As to me personally, as I look at the Sox right now here’s what I see (In no particular order)regarding needs:

1. The back end of the starting rotation is suspect. Contreras, Danks and Floyd (in particular) make me VERY nervous.

2. Another quality arm is needed for the battered, beat up bullpen.

3. Assuming Uribe is traded, a back up middle infielder is needed. (Anyone who says Andy Gonzales is the answer needs to lay off alcoholic beverages!)

4. Two outfield spots need to be filled.

5. A lead off hitter needs to be acquired (granted this may be part of the outfield acquisitions.)

6. Speed, speed, SPEED.

If Kenny’s comment about being in a “great” position is accurate….then let’s just say that I raised my eyebrows over it in surprise.

Mark Liptak

Those foolish Cardinals signed Caesar Izturis! One of our main options for trading Uribe has been blocked, unless they want Izturis as a back up. The Rays now have Jason Bartlett so they’re not looking anymore. If we can trade Juan…I have no idea where he’d go. I sure hope we do. Jason Bourgeois would be a perfect fit for the backup infield role. Why he wasn’t up here last season while Andy Gonzalez biffed around at the MLB level here is beyond me. I asked Scott Merkin in the mailbag why Bourgeois remained in AAA while A.Gonzo stayed up here and Merkin didn’t really give much of an answer in the WS mailbag. Personally I like Jerry Owens, I want to see him starting next season in left, then if he fails Sweeney can role in.

Tom, I only used your phrase because we’re on the blog. It’s more of a show of respect than stealing your intellectual property.

We’re now on the eve of the Winter Meetings…a lot of work to be done.

Let’s hope Kenny can figure out how to do it despite not having a lot of ‘payroll flexibility’ (in the words of Phil Rogers) and not a lot to deal with at the minor league level.

I still think he can pull it off though.

I hope so or the promise of “contending” in 2008 in the toughest division in the toughest league in baseball is going to ring somewhat hollow.

Good Luck Kenny!

Mark Liptak

Wow–reports of dangling Uribe and Contreras as a trade package.

Both need be sent to the glue factory and not an actual MLB team.

Looks like we’re in good shape for 08′.

Well, maybe we can get the “guru” Ozzie another hooker in Vegas with the Berwyn boys for that great trade bait—-you go Kenny…

Is it OK to purchase the over-marketed and waste of money legacy brick, so I can throw it at the combined big heads of Ozzie and Kenny?

sloppyjoe-the money spent on the legacy brick is for charity and for folks to remember their loved ones, you’re very rude to say they’re a waste of money as my father’s name will be on one of those bricks. Perhaps you should purchase one to bounce your already brain damanged head on! I thank you NOT to be so **** rude again about something that means something to others!

I understand from some contacts I have with the Arizona Diamondbacks that the Sox have just acquired outfielder Carlos Quentin from the Diamondbacks for a minor league player.

I don’t have any other details at this time. I’ve been told it will be announced soon.

Mark Liptak

Also Mark,

Claiming you got the information from “contacts with the Arizona Diamondbacks” would be more believeable if you posted the information before it was mentioned on a half dozen different websites.

GREAT MOVE. This is going to be a very good deal for the White Sox. This may be some payback from the Dbacks for Chris Young.
Finally, some good news.

I hope Carlos can heal up and do much better than his first two stints in the big leagues. Can’t wait to find out what else Kenny has in the works.

Cab:

I live in Idaho and don’t get Chicago radio or TV stations.

Those who know me or know of my work for another website know that I have been fortunate to develop relationships with different folks in different organizations including Arizona’s.

If my post offended you, I apologize.

I will not do this again in the future. I can promise you that.

Mark Liptak

Hate to hear the word surgery linked to our new pick-ups. Makes me think of the North Side of town, gives me the hives.

Yeah, what she said, Sloppy. It is a cool way to honor somebody special, and the money is going to help out the less fortunate. Check it out, White Sox Charities does a ton of good work.

Does this acquisition signal the end for either BA or Sweeney as a White Sox?

I sure hope so. I have seen Quinton play the sox in spring training for a few years now and every spring training i say boy i wish we had that guy. I still hope we get another outfielder though

Hopefully just BA. Well KW didn’t wait long. He must have a good idea of what he wants to do. We’ll see what happens.

The way the Sox played during Spring Training 2007, they made everybody else look good. No surprise Quinten looked good.

you are right about the Sox making everybody look good in spring training ’07, but then, they were working on their “fumble-mentals” and can be forgiven for their poor play. i know. i was there…….. go KW, we want an upgrade in center!!!!j.k. from tucson…. where it is currently a cool 65 with 5-10 mph breeze from the SW. outlook for the rest of the week… mid 70’s and lows in the 45 range. brrrrrrr ( sorry about that all my Chicago Buds)……

The White Sox signed SS, Mike Rouse, today. He should take over at short for Charlotte and out be at the MLB only if there is need due to an injury. Rouse can also play 2B and 3B, but Jason Bourgeois should still be the first choice for an inside the organization candidate for the utility infielder role besides Big Butt Uribe.

Sox1966:

As for the memory and honor of your father in purchasing a brick; I apologize.

My sarcastic post was only meant and stated to express displeasure with what will be another average Sox team and an increasingly average front office organization.

I’ll stop with that, other than pointing out that I’m not brain “damanged”.

You know what’s funny? The Cubs ripped off the brick idea from the White Sox, except instead of sending the profits to charity they just keep it.

There are currently rumors of utility man Chris Burke being traded to the White Sox for a reliever.

Although Burke isn’t good, if this actually happened I’d be happy if we dealt Masset or Aardsma, gaining Burke keeps Andy Gonzalez away.

Miguel Cabrerra and Dontrelle Willis to the Tigers for top prospects. Could this division possibly get any stronger? Not much left to make a big splash with!

Dontrell Willis is about to become a Detroit Tiger. That isn’t good news for the Sox. I hope Santana leaves the AL Central soon. I don’t know if it means anything, but I like the fact that the Sox were rated higher than the Cubs by Turnkey Sports.

You got to be kidding me. the tigers are now going to win the division for years to come. the sox might as well trade all of their players because williams is getting BEAT DOWN this offseason. Good lord id give up more just so you can pull close to the tigers. with this move harold baines will have to come out of retirement and turn into harold circa 1983, frank thomas will have to come back and be the big hurt of 94 and Hoyt and Dotson will have to come back to their 83 forms…..throw in the 90 version of thigpen and MAYBE the sox could finish within 10 games of the tigers. this is just terrible and giving aaron rowand a lot of money isnt going to help now……Chris Burke and Carlos Quinton while the top team in your division gets Miguel Cabrerra and Dontrelle willis? INEXCUSABLE!!!!

he probably will even get “outbid” in the burke deal too. maybe he’ll get jamie burke- he is better than last years edition of toby hall.

I don’t get the logic of how it’s KW’s fault that Cabrera/Willis were traded to Detroit.

He does not have the power to stop the Marlins from making that trade. What is he supposed to do, threaten Florida’s GM with a gun? If Florida decides they want Maybin and Miller, there’s nothing he can do about it.

Yeah, it just doesn’t help when you don’t have much to work with. We’ll see, nothings in ink yet….

Just saw this on Yahoo!

The Brewers are having an active day. According to a club official, the club has worked out a contract for free-agent righthander David Riske, who will get a chance to be Milwaukee’s closer. In addition, the Brewers are close to obtaining third baseman Joe Crede from the Chicago White Sox. With the addition of Crede, the Brewers could move NL rookie of the year Ryan Braun to left field. Braun had severe defensive problems at third.

This may be a long summer

Put in Danks, Gonzalez, Sweeney, Owens, Fields, Broadway, Quinton and floyd. YOU DO NOT LET THAT TEAM GET THE BEST PURE HITTER IN THE ******* *********** LEAGUE! The white sox will NEVER EVER EVER WIN AGAIN WITH THIS GOOF AS THE GM. THEY GOT LUCKY THE FIRST TIME. HE HAS BEEN MAKING BAD BAD DEALS SINCE HE GOT IN THE SPOT. HE SHOULD BE FIRED ALONG WITH OZZIE AND THE REST OF THIS INCOMPETENT IGNORANT ARROGANT AND ****** UP ORGANIZATION. 2005 WAS A COMPLETE AND UTTER FLUKE. NOW THEY WANT TO “COMPETE” IN 2008 BUT THEY DONT SIGN ANYONE TO DO SO. YOU MISS OUT ON HUNTER YOU MISS OUT ON CABRERRA- YOU TRADE GARLAND FOR **** WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE. RIP THE TEAM UP. KONERKO TO THE ANGELS- CREDE TO SOMEONE WHO WILL TAKE HIM. SHOULDA LET BUERHLE AND DYE WALK. IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO HALF ******* ASSED DONT BOTHER GOING. THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT HAVING MONEY THEY ARE FULL OF ****! THEY SOLD OUT THE CELL FOR 3 YEARS STRAIGHT! WHO CARES IF THE PAYROLL IS 100 MILLION? SPEND 150! DONT LET THESE *********** FOOL YOU. THEY ARE TRYING TO HALF *** IT JUST LIKE THEY DID IN 2005 AND EVERY OTHER ******* YEAR. THEY CANT MAINTAIN A CONSISTANT WINNING TEAM TO SAVE THEIR ******* LOUSY SOULS. BREAK APART THIS ORGANIZATION FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. THEY ARE ALL NOT CAPABLE OF DOING THEIR JOB PROPERLY. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. THEY COULD GO AFTER BEDARD FROM BALTIMORE WHO IS 500505050 TIMES THE PITCHER BUEHRLE IS. THEY COULD GO AFTER HAREN. THEY WONT DO ANYTHING. THEY WILL RESIGN AARON ROWAND WHO WAS **** IN 05 AND WILL REMAIN BEING **** N0W. THIS IS A SAD SAD DAY IN WHITE SOX HISTORY. THIS JUST PROVES THE SOX CANT HANG WITH THE BIG BOYS. THE TIGERS ARE SPENDING A **** LOAD OF MONEY AND THEY PLAY IN A SHITHOLE OF A CITY. I AM ******* HOT AND GLAD THAT MY SEASON TICKETS ARE CANCELLED. I JUST HAD A SON IN SEPTEMBER AND I MAY HAVE TO TEACH HIM TO LIKE A TEAM FROM ANOTHER CITY BECAUSE I DONT WANT HIM TO PUT UP WITH BEING THE SECOND BEST TEAM IN A SECOND RATE TOWN. WHAT ****

If you’re a GM, are you seriously taking the prospects the Sox have to offer over Maybin and Miller?

Why does Detroit have these premium prospects to offer and the Sox don’t? Because while our loser GM was putting together winning teams in 2004 and 2005, Detroit was finishing last and getting high draft picks.

KW really needs to be fired for that. It was very shortsighted of him to not finish last in 2004 and 2005 so that he would have the prospects to trade for Miguel Cabrera in 2008.

Assuming the Florida-Detroit deal is true (and ESPN News is reporting it as such)I think it’s time Kenny held a press conference and admitted that despite his best efforts there is little or no way the White Sox can “contend” in 2008.

I never in my life thought I’d ever say something like this but that’s the reality of things. Only a miraculous change of heart by ownership and an immediate spending spree could put the Sox in a position to challenge the American League’s ‘super’ teams…Boston, the Yankees, Los Angeles, Detroit and Cleveland.

Ozzie was quoted directly in September as saying he wasn’t going to be put in a position of “lying to the fans” about ‘contending’ in 2008. That is about to be put to the test.

I think the Sox will upset more of their fans by ‘claiming to contend’ in 2008 then they would if they would simply admit the reality of things and work to improve the situation in the near future.

If I’m Kenny I say I tried and that the Sox are now going to go about trying to acquire as much talent as possible at the major and minor league levels in the next two years and take another objective look at things in 2010.

What bothers me most however about this off season situation is this.

Kenny wanted Renteria…Detroit got him.

Kenny wanted Hunter…the Angels got him.

Kenny wanted Cabrera…Detroit got him.

This isn’t an “anti” Kenny rant, again I like the guy and his dedicated desire to win. He’s won a World Series title and that counts for a lot but it doesn’t ‘count’ forever. This isn’t all entirely his doing, he has to take orders too just like most of us so he’s not completely at “fault.”

It’s just extremely disappointing how two years removed from a championship, any hopes I had of a second Sox ‘golden age’ (the first being the time period from 1951 through 1967) are dashed on the rocky reefs of reality.

Mark Liptak

kenwo…Why don’t you let us know how you REALLY feel about Kenny?…Don’t beat around the bush…

Man, relax. If anything, KW should be taken to task for the farm system and how it’s caused him to go to the winter meetings with one arm behind his back. As far as the lack of deals, teams are gonna go to who can give them what they need. The sox ain’t in that spot.

How did Kenwo slip those two ********* by?

It’s not over yet, but Kenny better get something going on. They can’t continue to compete in this division if they make minor moves and the other, better teams, make huge moves.

Unfortunately I think Liptak is right, we are better served looking for talent now. Put Owens and Sweeney/Quentin in. Shop Konerko, Crede. Who knows, maybe KW can find some diamonds in the rough….

A sox golden age from 1951-67? they made the world series once for god sakes. that is a pretty pathetic golden age. id take the marlins golden age of 97-03 over that even with all the terrible seasons in between. just that statement is an obvious red flag that this garbage trash filled mediocre at best organization has been flawed since the beginning.

2004 by the way was not a good season cabiness you jerk store. they have had one season that wasnt a disappointment under williams. hold this dope accountable for something for god sake. i hope the sox sell out to cuban and not the cubs. he will clear house of all of these losers the sox currently employ. Kenny doesnt want to pay for anything and when he trades players he gets RIPPED EVERY TIME! from david wells to todd ritchie from sending carlos lee for garbage to trading for jim thome. from getting rid of frank thomas to having a war with scott boras. this is ridiculous! the sun shines on a dogs rump once in awhile. fire this jerk. send ozzie along with him. trade konerko and dye and thome and crede and find a way to get rid of buehrles no trade clause and trade him too. clean out from top to bottom. until then it will be another 88 years before they win a world series. they wont even make the playoffs for another 10 years the way it is going. what a sad state of affairs.

We’ll see, but the last thing we need to see is Williams try to save face by making a bunch of kneejerk acquisitions to say he did something and cobble together a high priced losing team. Better to try and rebuild than put the organization further into the hole and complain about a dropoff in attendance and the like.

“2004 by the way was not a good season cabiness you jerk store.”

Thanks so much for that. My entire family is laughing their ***** off at you right now.

Pure entertainment.

By the way, the Sox may be a storied franchise, but overall never overly successful. Just is the way it is.

No 26 championships that is, always thought of that as character or whatever…

Kenwo:

They had winning seasons 17 CONSECUTIVE YEARS, the 3rd longest streak in MLB history.

They had numerous All Stars and household names around the country including a number of future Hall of Famers. They dominated the Chicago media market and with the exception of one season, outdrew the Cubs in attendence every season during that time frame.

They also had seven seasons of 90+ wins (and remember before 1961 you only played 154 games) including three in a row from 1963 through 1965.

They were consistently the only team, year in a year out to give the Yankees a run for their money.

Yes, contrary to what you may think, it was a Golden Age.

Mark Liptak

It was a good era………but when you dont have ANY…ZERO….ZIP…ZILCH….NADA TITLES-it isnt a golden age

On the bright side of today, we’re not Cubs fans.

If KW wants to compete he needs to land one of the big pitchers in addition to Fukudome, Bedard or Harden. Its not out of the picture yet, the Tigers pitching is still not top notch. They should be better next season then last because they didn’t pitch deep into the playoffs like in ’06, but keep in mind they did just lose Miller and Jurrjens.

Holy Cow, Harry’s turning over in his grave and Bill V’s scoreboard just EXPLODED! the Sumtimes just ran out of paper! and Shoeless Joe just lost his, well, his shoes…. did our hot stove just burn through the floor or what??? as TQ said, come on guys, show some emotion……

unfortunatelly, i feel about the same way you all do. so much promise, so little to show for the best intentions. all we can do is wait and see what the SPIN is going to be. one comment though,Kenwo, we will not get Rowand, we wouldn’t do that to you Buddy. we all know how high you place Aaron in your esteem, and frankly, we couldn’t stand the possibility of you hemorraging on us, so we will NOT get Aaron for the “sake of Kenwo”. that ought to calm you down a bit….. j.k. feeling the heat all the way out here…..

Had we not won in 2005 and filled US Comiscular for the last 3 years this stuff would be kind of expected. I thought if we filled the park they would fill the roster with higher caliber players. Where did that philosphy go? I’m sure profits are up. Did the people in charge see those extra dollars and get greedy? Did they forget about the customer? Seems to be the case to me.

I won’t blame KW for all of this. Yes as GM our farm system has gone to ****. We would have had nothing to offer for that combo of Cabrera and Willis. We may have been able to pull off Cabrera, but Florida has been trying to dump Willis for some time now. This is going to turn out to be a great deal for Florida too. Only question is do they win it in 2010 or 2011? Their philosophy sure has worked well.

KW can not be completely blamed for the farm system and our home grown talent. Like any boss you have to delegate and you have to trust the people you delegate to. You can not be looking over their shoulders all the time. They need to clean house in scouting and coaching throughout the farm system.

KW said that he took a much larger role in this past summers draft. I think part of that was to buy himself and his staff some time. In baseball it takes 3-4 years to be able to judge a draft. This may have bought him the time to see how this draft turns out. I’m sure the KW haters out there don’t want to hear that, but Reindorf is a very loyal person to his staff and I am sure he will give KW the chance to build through a draft or two.

2008 looks to be a nightmare in the waiting. All we can do is sit by and watch. Did anyone expect what happened in 2005? Everyone was picking the Indians to run away with the division. I’m not saying we should make plans for October, but let’s see how it plays out.

Well put devereux. Gotta admit, not surprised by the outcome but hoped against hope we could pull off a coup. Oh well, season still needs to be played.

Liptak, while the seasons you refer to were A golden age, it was somewhat bittersweet in that we could be good but not good enough, looking back from now. I think that’s where 2005 really gave the Sox a second wind and a new start so to speak.

As far as the caliber of players, well, time will tell. Three seasons doesn’t yield up a war chest like the Flubbies have been sittin on for years. I just hope that the team on the field this year is made up of ballplayers rather than superstars. A-rod with his marketing incentives or whatever. I like Rowand mostly because I think he will be a good prescence in the clubhouse. But that Fukudome guy may be worth a risk too. Just hope we buy the right guys and make whatever trades we make count.

Just read one of those entries, what’s KW talking about, can’t pay a dollar when you only have 50 cents? ****, money is the only sure thing we may or should have for a few offseason acquisitions. I’d expect our trades not to be earthshaking. I’d expect us to be out of the A-rod sweepstakes. But the money analogy sounds like he’s crying poor. I know Rowand, Jones and some of these other guys are talking like they should get what Hunter got, but seriously, saying you can’t make that end meet? Man up and say ‘sorry you’re not worth that kind of contract’ (yeah, I know, words we can eat later). For God’s sake, DON’T cry poor. Don’t give up and say, “it’s not you, it’s me”. That’s a two way street.

Man, this market in baseball is unreal. Guy like Hunter gets a big deal. Boom, Rowand and Jones want five years. Cameron is saying how glad he is to see the bar raised for CFs with dollar signs in his eyes. Attendance is up, you want to win in 2008, and I don’t want to root for a charity case. I’ll take the losing team, but dammit, just call it like it is.

Didn’t you guys hear? “The White Sox are in a GREAT position” going into these Winter meetings. Just ask Kenny.

He should also be ashamed of that dollar/50 cents comment. How did they go from “great position” to “can’t make a dollar out of 50 cents?” The Sox have been drawing more fans than ever, which means more money. Heck, MLB said they made 6.5 BILLION this year. Why can the Sox not just go balls-out and get what they need?

I can see it already. The White Sox will only make minor adjustments/moves this offseason. The Tigers look like the World Series fav now.

The Sox have reportedly offered Rowand 4 years at $12-14 mil per year. I guess that means he wont’ be back here in 2008.

Either the Sox don’t want him back or KW is really bad at negotiating. The guy asks for 5 years and the Sox could get away with $12 per for 5 years. Why do you offer him 4? You know in this market that someone else will gladly give him that 5th year.

I get this feeling the Sox are more interested in Andruw Jones. Maybe the thought is that he had such an awful year last year that he may come cheaper and may have a resurgence in a right handed home run hitters park. Although I would bet that Andruw Jones shows up on the Mitchell Report.

My computer is a POS…

In fairness, i don’t know how much of baseball’s 6 billion belongs to the SouthSide. I do know that going from “a great position” and making a legit offer to Hunter and signing Linebrink for 19 mil then playing the we only have 50 cents card makes NO sense whatsoever.

6 Billion in profit for the MLB means that everyone is making money. Attendance is breaking records all around baseball. Everyone is making money. The Sox had most attendance ever in ’06 and top 5 attendance in ’07. They’ve raised prices on tickets and parking both of the past two seasons and season ticket sales have gone through the roof.

They may not be part of the 6 billion that MLB made, but everyone in baseball is making money.

Except the Marlins.

If you’re gonna grovel do it right, don’t cry broke, we all know you’re bull$hitting, I’m sure Rowand does too. If you won’t spend cash, you won’t make a splash with the guy from Japan.

Ask Rowand to work with you, maybe an incentives oriented contract. He’s percieved well in Chicago, a blue collar grinder, a hard worker, he’ll be appreciated. Say that Hunter offer was a mistake in hindsight. Say you want to win in 08 but you got to spread the money around. Shoot, a nice gritty Chicago ballplayer should be able to live on 10 mil a year (or thereabouts)plus whatever. It’s called NEGOTIATION, some would call it COMPROMISE, geez don’t these guys watch SESAME STREET? Do something other than cry poor. And some guys shouldn’t take themselves so seriously that they can’t see the forest from the trees in that the numbers (of dollars) can never be big enough.

If I wanted to watch a bunch of self involved yuppie idiots for months on end living in a fantasy world I could do it a in a bunch of other ways and probably cheaper than hauling my *** and those of others to these games. If Rowand don’t want to be here, fine put a kid in that slot, least he’ll want to play. If a deal couldn’t be made despite Williams taking some lumps in this reality trying to make deals and Chicago’s favored Rowand not getting enough money in his view, then something is seriously wrong with both parties. I dunno…

If rowand doesn’t want to be here, that’s fine too, but say it fer cryin out loud…

Anyone else here not re-up their season tickets year?

sorry, just ranting……. Just, please, don’t cry about dollars and cents. It just doesn’t add up…..

But Windy, don’t rant, the White Sox are in a “great” position going into these meetings.

LOL

I have been reading you guys all winter long. I never realized how active this site was during the winter. You guys are HILARIOUS!!!! A regular comedy routine ripe with insults and curse words. I am impressed by Kenwo’s ability to irritate even now… when we all know how he is already!!! Pure Comedy… from the trade moves by the “organization” to the insults from the bloggers…..you guys (bloggers) STILL have the ability to crack me up!!!

Lisa M

Well at least someone’s getting entertained here….

This is what is most disappointing to me. This comment which I read in the newspaper on Wednesday morning:

“You try to do things that make sense and you can afford.” Williams said. “I can’t give you a dollar if I don’t have 50 cents. Decisions are made awfully easy for you.”

The reminds me of the press conference where Kenny was introduced as the new G.M. At that affair he made the comment that “I can’t ask the owner to spend a dollar if he only has fifty cents.”

At the time I was willing to give the organization the benefit of the doubt, they hadn’t done well for example in attendence.

But how can that claim be made today? After drawing between 2.5 and 2.9 million fans for the past three seasons…after winning a World Series and being in position to ‘take back’ their own city. After improved television and advertising deals and most importantly after Bud Selig himself gleefully proclaims that baseball is now a six billion (with a B) dollar business thanks to the new revenue streams.

Baseball is swimming in cash…yet apparently we are back to the days of ‘fiscal responsibility.’

That’s all well and good but do the Sox also want to return to the days of drawing 1.9 million a season too? You can’t have one without the other.

Mark Liptak

Oh Liptak, so naive. Ya see… here at White Sox Charities, we like to rest on our laurels. Yes, playoff baseball on the South Side is priceless, but a poor little organization like ours just can’t compete like the club of Cubbie blue.

That’s why here at 35th and Shields we are taking pledges and donations from viewers like you to help sponsor an also ran on the ‘other side of town’. We just can’t provide non-prospect contenders without your financial support. Our lackluster efforts and waffling midstream brought to you in part by Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf is proud of its commitment to halfa$$ed deals. For your pledge of just $150 a day, we can help feed and clothe a needy ballplayer who would normally not being playing in this league at all. Remember, we can’t pay a dollar if all we have is fifty cents. Call now….. all major credit cards accepted…..

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Windy:

I’ve got to give you an ‘A’ for that one.

Very funny although I’m sure some folks reading this blog probably wouldn’t consider it as such.

Like I said we’ll see how the rest of the off season goes but I would be very, very surprised if overall attendance didn’t drop again in 2008 just as it did in 2007 compared to the previous season.

Mark Liptak

Ya know, just save the financially strapped statements. I’ll take just about anyone Jason Bay, whatever, but at least put on your game face and talk about being aggressive and fielding the best team of ballplayers that you feel you can back. The 50 cents statements are a smack in the face after 2007 and the attendance during that season….

the adopt a player idea was some thing ESPN did to make fun of some small market teams, just retrofitted it for the sox.

Just seems like Kenny lost stride and defaulted to excuses of helplessness, way to attract competitive spirits. Gotta be rough having to field calls from Dye and answering the Emails… Lets see what happens…

Haven’t the Sox been the ones trading our starters to get young, promising, prospects? But yet, we have nothing to trade the Marlins. No ability to analyze young talent leaves the Sox with no hope, and no ability to develop young talent leaves the Sox pathetically undermanned to compete past one year.
And no ability to get ANY big guns in the free agent market or in the trade market, leaves the fans outside the gates. Watch attendance drop, and then we’ll have to hear how the team can’t compete because the fans don’t support the team. It’s a filthy, yellow snowball rolling downhill, picking up all kinds of **** and growing, growing, until it runs over the hope of the faithful, smashing their dreams of summer.

For crying out loud folks, relax. It’s December 5. I’ve never heard of a pennant won or even a winning season completed in December.

It’s apparent that many of you want the Sox to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade.

There are 29 other franchises in baseball and all (at least almost all) of them are trying to find ways to improve their teams. Just because the White Sox are in the No. 3 market doesn’t mean that they should be able to trade for anyone they want.

There is so much involved in trades and free-agent signings. If it were easy, then there wouldn’t be a need for a general manager.

There is a lot of time before Opening Day. Why don’t you withhold judgment until you see what the lineup is in April and how it produces when the season starts?

And as far as attendance goes, of course it will go down if the team does not win. It works that way at 29 Major League ballparks around the country. You know, ballparks where people attend the games because they want to see their team win, not because they want to be seen at the ballpark.

28 ballparks – the lemmings will still flock to the shrine if they go 0-162.

28 ballparks – the lemmings will still flock to the open-air-bar if they go 0-162.

weird, got some message saying that I used a malicious word so I change a word and both posts show up. strange???

tc1980 not po’d about the moves Williams has made. Probably won’t be upset with the ones he will make. The deals that didn’t go? Well, he really tried and I won’t fault him for that. I will however go to task for that “can’t spend a dollar if I only got 50 cents” comment. Rowand doesn’t come back? Don’t care, if Rowand is being unreasonable with the length of said contract. But nickel and diming in general when you waste 4.5 mil on Uribe and toss around the money on middle relief and a bid offer on Hunter goes unfilled? Way to attract the free agents and fans with an about face on how stoked you are to win next year. Just saying, seen enough of that, seems like a couple steps backwards. He’s mr. gutsy and mr. know-it-all. See the latest article about silence on negotiations? Seems the money comment was an excuse. It’s a poor one. Just say so and so won’t fit for these reasons or those reasons. They want too much money? I believe it. But don’t make it sound like you may have to take out a second mortgage to make payroll. So no, not saying the season is over, not saying the pennant is ours or anyone elses. Just saying…..

Heck, the tigers still ain’t so bad. They’ve found ways to lose the past two seasons. The twins choking on Santana, I love it!

Good to see this blog hasn’t changed one bit since the end of the season. If anything it’s only gotten more passionate. And for good reason…and that was an epic rant by kenwo.

My question is what in the **** is Kenny waiting for? While he’s sitting there twiddling his thumbs the Tigers just pulled off the trade of the off-season. While he’s settling for cosmetic changes to a wretched and ineffectual lineup, the Tribe is focusing on getting better. While he’s busy balancing two shortstops, no second baseman and a **** bullpen the Twins are realizing the need to get younger and rebuild. It’s truly maddening.

Kenny needs to come to the realization that this team is going nowhere. And if they could go there fast they would but they’ve got no team speed. So they’re going nowhere slowly. Which is all the more agonizing.

Who knows? Maybe Kenny’s got some magical trade in the works that will make us all say “Eureka, that’s the ticket! Now the White Sox are no longer a slow team of aging sluggers who can’t hit for average, with no bullpen,no real balance, and apparently no money.” But if he does I’m not seeing it. It’s going to take more than an Orlando Cabrera to turn this around (though I do like that trade). As far as I can see the White Sox are in as lousy shape as we were last season.

So yeah Kenny, we’re in great position. In great position to be looking up the **** of the Tigers and Indians as they stomp all over our collective skulls. Probably the Twins too. Though I do believe in my heart of hearts we will be able to stick it to the Royals once again. In any case, hope to see something happen.

Until next trip to the local library White Sox Universe (h/t Mr. Quaid). Have a good holiday season and stay warm. I’m sure klein won’t have to much trouble with that.

Today’s rule 5 draft,

We got!

-Santo Luis

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/L/Santo-Luis.shtml

23 year old right handed reliever from Houston,he’s Dominican, only ended at low A ball. We’ll probably learn more about him from Merkin on the offical CHISOX page by the day’s end.

We lost:

-Fernando Hernandez (as expected) to the A’s. He’s a 23 year old right handed reliever who put up good numbers for us every year but ’05. He never made it above AA because the Sox didn’t like his arm strength or his size.

-Ray Liotta. He’s a 24 year old left handed starting pitcher, our 2nd rounder from ’04. He pitched very well in the first two year here from Rookie ball to high A, but had a lot of trouble in the past two years and ended with a 4.93 ERA in AA Birmingham this year. He is not this man: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/hh/0000501/RayLiottaHeadshot.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Liotta%2C%20Ray&seq=14

Ryan Rodriguez. He’s a 23 year old right handed SP, drafted out of high school in ’02 and he ended the year with a 5.70 ERA at high A in Winston Salem. They can have him, no thanks to that guy….

-Garry Bakker, 24 year old RHRP/SP. Put up 3.67 ERA at A+ in ’07, but he’s not going anywhere fast.

-Daron Roberts, 24 year old OF, had his best season in ’07 repeating A+ ball batting .281 with 12 HR 59 RBIs 19 SBs.

The question at the end of the day is, why in the world was Andy Gonzalez still on the the 40 man roster when we could have kept Fernando Hernandez. Just makes you shake your head in disgust.

Los Angeles Dodgers had acquired the big bat it has been looking for by reaching a preliminary agreement with free agent center fielder Andruw Jones on a two-year, $36.2 million deal. One more stolen from Kenny

Nah this one wasn’t stolen, Kenny stated the White Sox were not going after Andruw Jones. Although he stated other reasons, Jones is a Boras client, end of story.

Come on Jerry Owens as the starting CF!!!!!

This probably means Rowand is gonna end up back here. I like him and all, but I don’t know how I feel about him coming back. Guess we will have to wait and see what deals KW does

A. Jones is the one who is stealing. How did that guy win the lottery after putting up Uribe numbers in his contract year?

Couldn’t agree with you more Tim. I know the guy plays exceptional defense, but 18+ mil/year is so inflated for that guy. I guess you really are worth whatever someone will pay you.

Now that we’ve all slammed the White Sox for the past couple of days, I’m curious to know what you guys would want if you could be the GM. If you could be Kenny for a day, what would you do?

If I could make 1 transaction happen I would find a way to make a deal with the Orioles for Brian Roberts. Maybe the Sox give up Crede(if he’s even tradable)and any one of(possibly two) Floyd/Danks/Masset/Gonzalez/Broadway. The Sox would still have holes in the OF, but getting a solid 2b and a good leadoff man would be great.

Just curious here. Thoughts?

Kris

kris…Old friend, haven’t you read in the past what I have stated about fans being GM’s?…They would be taken to the cleaners SO FAST by these schnooks and ******** it would make their heads swim…
Now, to address WS Universe…

those of you out there who have gotten your panties in a bundle about the lack of trades, et cetera, that has taken place on the part of the general manager…

I wish to congratulate each and every one of you for achieving your goal…

YOU HAVE GOTTEN KENNY,AND ME AS WELL,PO’D AT THE BUNCH OF YOU NITWITS!!!

YOU SOB’S THINK THAT EVERY SOB ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL WANTS TO COME HERE AND PLAY FOR THE GREATEST FANS IN THE WORLD…YOU THINK THAT THIS IS NOTHING BUT A GROWN-UP GAME OF MONOPOLY, AND YOU ALL WANT TO HOARD BOARDWALK AND PARK PLACE, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE RAILROADS…

WELL, SORRY, CHARLIE !!!

LIFE DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY!!!

I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY IT…MOST OF THESE ******** DON’T DESERVE TEN CENTS, LET ALONE TEN MILLION DOLLARS, FOR THEIR DUBIOUS TALENTS…

THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS BEEN PRICED OUT OF THE F**KING BALL PARK, BECAUSE OF THE RISE IN TICKET PRICES, CAUSED BY THE PURCHASE OF THESE BABOONS WHO PUT ON A JERSEY AND THINK THEY ARE GREAT BASEBALL PLAYERS!!!

BESIDES,HAVEN’T YOU HEARD THE “GENIUSES” WHO WRITE AND TALK ABOUT MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL HAVE TOLD US ALREADY, ON DECEMBER 4TH, THAT THE TIGERS ANR RED SOX ARE GOING TO BE PLAYING FOR THE PENNANT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, BASED ON THE PURCHASES THEY MADE AT THE WINTER MEETINGS, WHILE THE REST OF THE TEAMS SAT AROUND AND PLAYED WITH THEMSELVES…

Now, kenwo… THAT was a rant, wasn’t it ???

Tom, can’t you just humor a fellow blogger? I didn’t say these are moves Kenny should make, I’m just curious to see what others want.

And speaking of Kenny getting mad about what others say, it HIS organization that is leaking all these rumors. Ozzie has a new comment every day. He should clean up his own house before others.

whew! what an “exciting!???” four days. the winds of change were blowing hard and they blew quality outfielders and infielders throughout the land, but alas when the dust settled this morning, all the hype, all the hope all the anxiety turned out to be nothing more than the tail end of that wind being blown up our collective you know where’s. there was rumor of some smoke added to said wind too.now you all know me to be patient, and willing to see what happens, but our “best” intentions going into this week got us a questionable outfielder from Az, and nothing else. in short, we got steamrolled. i know Kenny wants to conduct negotions in private from now on. okay, but let’s conduct already, or else we’re gonna only be holding the baton and there won’t be anybody to conduct. Oh, somewhere in this land birds are singing and children shout, but there is no joy in Chitown: mighty Kenny struck out……

my Christmas wish list: Bedard from Baltimore and Aaron from philly for Joe, Jose, and any two of our outstanding youngsters, Danks, Floyd, Richar, etc….. let’s get strong up the middle again like we did in ’05. then all we need is a second sacker… and Tom, the beauty of second guessing the professionals is that sometimes we are right, and besides that, the players will continue to get what they can ( whatever the market will bear) and if we don’t spend we will not be able to play with the “big boys”. i know that money alone doesn’t work, look at the yankees, but if we field a AAA team don’t expect all the pieces to fall into place. ….. that’s my rant rebuttal, ( with all due? respect to Kenwo)….. later all from frigid tucson…… last looked it was only 71…..j.k.

Have we gotten Bedard yet? Haren? Rowand? ANYONE? come on kenny for the love of god do something that will help this team win besides getting a shortstop when you just signed one, and a middle reliever. we need some help. the only way to stop the big bats that the tigers have is to shut em down. if we could get bedard and or haren then we’d be in business. until then we are just wasting our time and money on a team destined to finish with a 62 win season. The way i see it is we have gotten worse this offseason- if you could believe that. without garland in the rotation and now even a bigger hole in the outfield since the pathetic duo of erstad and pods left (although they are better than what we currently have). unless something major and drastic is done- this is going to be one of the ugliest seasons on the southside. anyone remember 1988?

Especially after the bullpen fiasco in 2007 I honestly hope this quote from Kenny to Scott Merkin of White Sox.com doesn’t wind up coming back to haunt him:

“Our pitching is not going to be a problem this year.”

Mark Liptak

It has come to my attention that the blue jays are shopping alex rios. the sox would be out of their minds if they weren’t looking to aquire this guy. He is an outstanding ball player who is fast, hits for power, hits for average, runs well and throws well. If they could get rios id almost be happy they didnt get cabrerra. They wont though. just another pipe dream. we will end up with rob mackowiak or something. good lord.

Kris I’ll be Kenny.

My first choice would be to sign no one good at all, with no expectation of winning, but instead only to get my veterans some show time to provide other teams with the idea that they aren’t as bad as ’07, then we trade away the majority of the guys for prospects, blowing the team up.

But for the sake of the We-Will-Compete in ’08 mentality, this is how I would try to arrange my team with a realistic expectation of budget,trades, and free agency. Some of my roster choices are now impossible, but could have been done earlier in the offseason.

Offense:

-I would not use the Uribe team option, let him go

-Sign Fukudome as the number one offensive F.A. priority

-Move Richar to SS

-Sign Luis Castillo to play 2B

-Dump Pods,Erstad, Cintron

-Promote Jason Bourgeois to MLB

-Trade Crede to Giants for Rajai Davis

Pitching:

I’d then

-Trade Jon Garland (helping with salary), Javier Vazquez (selling high), and Gio Gonzalez for Erik Bedard and Adam Loewen. If they demand more we can give a little more.

-Anticipate promoting Oneli Perez to the MLB if he performs well at Charlotte by June/July

-Sign Luis Vizcaino

-Sign Brendan Donnelly

Lineup

1)Jerry Owens LHCF

2)Luis Castillo SH2B

3)Jim Thome LHDH(Only against bad lefties though)

4)Konerko RH1B

5)Kosuke Fukudome LHRF

6)Jermaine Dye RHLF

7)AJ Pierzynski LHC

8)Josh Fields RH3B

9)Danny Richar LH2B

Bench

Pablo Ozuna UTIL

Rajai Davis OF

Jason Bourgeois INF

Toby Hall C

Rotation

1)Erik Bedard

2)Mark Buehrle

3)Jose Conteras

4)Adam Lowen

5)John Danks

Bullpen:

LR-Mike MacDougal

ROOGY-Ehren Wasserman

LOOGY-Boone Logan & Carlos Vazquez compete in ST for this spot

MR-Luis Vizcaino

MR-Matt Thornton

SU Brendan Donnelly

CL Bobby Jenks

-I would plan on trading Wasserman around June/July right before hitters get used to him so that he sells high. Then move Oneli Perez in.

-Starting against lefthanded pitchers, Thome will be replaced by Dye at DH, Fukudome will bat 3rd because of OBP, and Davis takes CF and bats 9th, bumping Owens to LF. JD, AJ, Fields, and Richar move up a spot in the order.

-Andy Gonzalez is no where near the White Sox organization ever again. In fact get a restraining order.

-We do NOT ever trade Chris Carter

-We do NOT ever trade Fautino De Los Santos

This team has more power, more speed, worse defense, above average pen, and mediocre starting pitching. To contend it would be my preference to obtain more quality starters, but I feel like that is not really a realistic possibility. I got rid of Vazquez because I want to sell him high (I see him more in the 3.90-4.10 ERA next season), rid of Garland because we need something for him but won’t resign him, rid of Crede to save some money.

Between Thome/Konerko/Dye I see at least 2 of 3 going back to their career median for next year. Josh Fields’ and Fukudome’s power will make up for the slacker. Contreras will not be great, but I do see him in the 4.40-4.50 ERA range, who knows maybe a little better. Outside of his arm and his SB%, I really like Jerry Owens. And although stats do not predict the future, he has done a good job progressing and adjusting to each promotion he receives. I see him hitting .285 with a .355 OBP next year, not all star material, but not too bad. Considering he is league minimum, I want him starting on our team next year because he can fit into that needed speed role on the team.

As an aside from everything else going on this week, did anyone else see this comment from one of the two people that represent/work with Brian Anderson?

It was told to Mark Gonzales of the Tribune:

“For the first time, Brian is approaching this like a professional. He works out twice a day and doesn’t go out at night. He’s working with a top professional trainer and with a nutritionist. He’s very focused.”

Obviously the words used implied that he wasn’t doing these things beforehand doesn’t it.

Mark Liptak

Yeah I saw that, perhaps this means there is much less “partying” for Brian Anderson and more focus on the game. At the very least this could get him back on track to start out well in Charlotte.

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