Swisher Trade

Thursday, January 3, 2008

Nick Swisher

We acquired outfielder Nick Swisher today in a trade with the Oakland A’s, sending them Gio Gonzalez, Fautino De Los Santos and Ryan Sweeney in return.

A switch-hitter, Swisher has pop (22 home runs, 36 2B in 2007) and gets on base, which has been one of our needs.  He can play all three outfield positions, as well as first base, and played center field in 2007.

Start playing around with our potential lineup for 2008, and you have to like it’s depth.  It’s a lineup that can score some runs.


For a team that suposedly has a shallow farm system, we sure have a lot of interest in our minor leaguers … and a lot of angst about losing Class A pitchers.

Can’t speak for everyone, but I definitely take a Keynesian approach to the future …"In the long run, we are all dead." (I am sure I butchered the quote, but you get the idea).

For a very long time, we worred about our farm system with a long list of pitchers we would never trade (I won’t name them all, but Scott Ruffcorn is on that list).  Not much to show for that approach.  At least with KW, he is going to be aggressive and try to win.  I always challenge critics to name a player we regret trading.  I think it’s too early yet to make a determination on Chris Young, but even if you grant the outfielder, I’ll trade one regret for a World Series title.  I definitely do not fall in the "worry about the future" crowd.  Let’s win in 2008 and worry about 2009 then …


With Swisher, Carlos Quentin, Jerry Owens, Danny Richar and Josh Fields, you can start to see a core group of mid to late 20-year-old position players coming together.

Certainly, we have a veteran group in Dye, Konerko, AJ and Thome in place, but a young core is also starting to form.


My thoughts and sympathies go out to the friends and family of great Sox fan Terry Armour, who passed away much too soon last week.  A great, great Sox fan, Terry will be missed by us all.

He was always the life of every party and every game.


This will definitely be interesting. kenwo makes a good point about the quality of our typical prospects. And Swisher seems to me to be more reasonably priced than Hunter and Rowand. I guess it all depends on how those three young fellas progress.

As far as the long run, while I appreciate the attempts to win now, a balanced approach is valuable in that you don’t leave yourself worse off come next year. In short, want to win now so badly you’ll shortchange yourself for next season? Be careful what you wish for.

Wow. I definitely wasn’t expecting that! But. I am never too surprised with a trade the KW will put together.

Not sure if you read the comments, but if you do, I would love your thoughts on the price of Nick Swisher. Gonzalez and Sweeney have great talent. Would we have been able to go after Carl Crawford with that group plus another?

Interesting deal. Certainly didn’t see that one coming. I like the addition of course this also means that Danks and Gavin “Deer In The Headlights” Floyd better produce at the back end of the rotation…or else.

Mark Liptak

Me likey.

The price was steep – but Sweeney’s been regressing the last 2 years in AAA.

Losing Gio (and to a lesser extent De Los Santos) does hurt but you got to give a bit to get a good player. This deal could work out for both teams.

Acquiring a player like Swisher is certainly better than standing pat.

Hi Scott!
I haven’t posted a comment in a while, but I just wanted to say

1.) Welcome to Nick Swisher. I was surprised when I heard this on the news, but it seems like a pretty good deal.

2.) My friend said she drove by the park this evening and the lights were on. Is this because every one is back at work?

I do like Swisher…would have rather seen Aaron in the outfield. Also I like Ryan so we will see how he performs in Oakland


I really like swisher but he is not a true center fielder which is somewhat of a problem. On the other hand he is versitile. So to me not a bad trade.

I have mixed emotions about this deal. Does this deal make the 2008 team a contender? I’m not sure. The Indians and Tigers appear to be very strong. Do the Sox measure up to these teams? They might but it’s no slam dunk (is there ever?). I’m a little more optimistic about the teams chances after this deal but I fear that to much of the future make have been mortgaged for a present that is better but maybe not good enough.

What to do with Joe Crede/Josh Fields? Perhaps KW is not done yet.

More Angels/Konerko trade rumors? If KW does a deal, one can’t question his desire to tear down walls for another championship.

If they do trade konerko to the angels god hope us ervin santana is one of the players we get in return. that guy has good stuff. i have no idea what happened to him last year but that would help fill out the bottom of the rotation with danks and floyd OUCH! one of those guys is bad enough-both would make me not go to the park on the days they were pitching.

Kendrick and Figgins are both also good ballplayers. i would like to see this deal. then swisher could move to first-or my plan before this whole offseason debacle was trade konerko or thome and move fields to the vacated spot and keep crede. we’ll see.

by the way did anyone see the list of soxfest players? it hasnt changed since early december. hopefully there are some more people coming. i will be there the whole weekend and always look forward to it. though it was more fun at the hyatt but thats another story for another day.

For once I totally agree with keno’s analysis on this deal, get it done.

This is a very old trade rumor that has shown its head again, but Williams has denied it.




1985: Hoyt Wilhelm, who had some of his best seasons with the White Sox, was voted into the Hall of Fame on his eighth try. The news wasn’t as good for White Sox legend Nellie Fox, who just missed induction by receiving 74.68 percent of the vote. Fox needed to get to 75 percent for induction. The Hall did not round up –claiming Fox did not receive a true 75 percent of the vote — leaving Fox short of his deserved Hall of Fame induction. Nellie’s long overdue induction into the Hall would finally comein 1997. Wilhelm, who pitched for the Sox from 1963 to 1968, topped the balloting with 331 votes. He was named on 83 percent of the ballots cast by the Baseball Writers Association of America, easily surpassing the 75 percent needed for induction. Former Cub Lou Brock alsoreceived enough votes for induction. Wilhelm used his knuckleball to go 41-33 for the Sox between 1963 and 1968 and his ERA was under 2.00 in each of his last five seasons on the Southside. On July 24, 1968, Wilhelm made his big league record 907th appearance in the second game of a doubleheader against Oakland before 13,089 at Comiskey Park. Wilhelm tied Cy Young’s record in the Sox 1-0 loss in the first game of the doubleheader and then broke it in the 2-1 setback in the nightcap. The ageless knuckleballer finished his career in 1972 at age 49 with 1,070 appearances. Others with Sox ties receiving votes but falling short of induction were Ron Santo, Don Larsen, **** Allen, Wilbur Wood, Don Kessinger, Denny McLain and Clay Carroll.


2004: The White Sox signed reliever Cliff Politte to a one-year contract with a club option. Politte was adequate in 2004 – a season which was shortened by an appendectomy before turning a spectacular 2005. A key member of the bullpen, Politte was 7-1 with one save and 2.00 ERA for the 2005 World Series champion White Sox. 2006 didn’t go as well. Politte had a ******** 8.70 ERA in 30 appearances before he was released on July 20, 2006.

(For more see http://www.whitesoxalmanac.com … I update it daily. During the season, this material is displayed on the scoreboard at US Cellular Field as the “White Sox Almanac.”

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