Sox at Baltimore

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Tonight’s Lineup

Getz 4, Fields 5, Q 7, Thome dh, JD 9, PK 3, AJ 2, Alexei 6, BA 8.  Contreras pitching.

Roster Move

We’ve designated Mike MacDougal for assignment and recalled Jack Egbert in time for tonight’s game.

I’ll try to post more tonight about our amazing day at the White House yesterday.

Also, a reminder that I am using twitter if you want updates.  Name:  nelliefox2.

55 Comments

Well, the MacDougal news will certainly make a lot of people happy. Especially Jack Egbert. Welcome to The Show, Jack!

Regarding Ol’ MacDougal (e-i-e-i-oh no!) in the words of former President Ford…”our long national nightmare is over…)

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Brad Bergesen makes his major league debut this evening. I hope it’s a memorable one although not in the way he is probably hoping for.

Mark Liptak

Rain delay….. ugh…… Go Sox…. j.k.

The Baltimore radio announcers just mentioned that the Sox have had trouble over the past few years when facing pitchers they haven’t seen before. “So Bergeson will have that going for him.” Here’s hoping that jinxes them….. not that ANY of us are superstitious or anything………. Nah! nothing like that.

And why am I listening to the Baltimore feed? WSCR isn’t live and Baltimore is….. Go Sox’09……j.k.

More from Baltimore…. The Orioles have given up 15 unearned runs, by far the most in the major leagues….. No update on gametime from these guys although they are optimistic…. j.k.

Unfortunately, Klein, the Sox hitters do have a history of being baffled by the work of young upstarts they’ve never seen before.

Speaking of Upstarts, welcome to the majors Jack Egbert.

The first game I get to watch in nearly a week, and its in rain delay!! Why, God, why?? I’m going through withdrawl here!

I’m with you on that one Amy. And if Hitmen paid any attention, he would know that I realized we’ve not been very stellar against unknown pitchers. But that’s ok… welcome to Scott’s blog and come on Rain-gods, go away and let the Wlhite Sox win today… j.k.

Yeah!! play ball…. Come on Jose, be tough… j.k.

jk, I’m with you on Gameday till I finish my hw in the tech center. I was putting it off to watch the game, and it figures it was in rain delay and now I’m working on it! Gah!!

Homework is MORE important than tonights game. Just get it done already so you can join me…. Come on Boys, let’s get a hit… j.k.

I, for one (of many) sure am not sad to see MacDougal go. I wish him all the best selling hot dogs, cars, or whatever.

Go Sox! So far, we are proving the Orioles broadcasters right. Come on guys, how about a hit or two or three!

MariE

Once again we’re facing Cy Young…… Keep chunking Jose… Go Sox… j.k.

It doesn’t help that my Prof is incompetent and doesn’t know how to write directions to make a clear assignment! This is friggin Greek to me!!

Sorry, Amy I’d offer to help, but I don’t speak Greek…… Top of the order, can we at least break up the NO-NO?…. Go Sox… j.k.

Ugh!!! Sucks Huff got a homer because 1.) its against us and 2.) I put him on the bench for my fantasy team. Ugh!!

thank you JD

That’s better!!! 2-2 now! Dinner time so hold down the fort for awhile….j.k.

Sorry jk, couldn’t hold ‘em through Gameday. But now I’m home, good to see the boys!! Now I want to see a winner!! Got to get as much as I can in, I’ve got a meeting at 10!

4-3 bad guys? Amy, that’s on you…… j.k.(just kidding)…. Let’s get to their pen and hold them down Jose et.al…..j.k.

UGH! 5-3 now….. Too many walks, Jose…… Hold ‘em so we can come back Clayton…. j.k.

Like Rick Morrissey said on Chicago Tribune Live! this afternoon, it’s nice that Contreras came back as fast as he did but he needs to start winning some games.

Another poor outing by him and a good outing by a rookie pitcher making his debut (naturally) against the White Sox.

One earned run on four hits.

Guess no one should be surprised, this club has already lost games to the likes of Kyle Davies and R.A. Dickey this season.

Mark Liptak

Lip, you mean Christy and Warren, don’t you?…. j.k.

Uncle, Uncle. See you tomorrow all….. j.k.

Klein:

I don’t understand what you mean?

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Here’s an idea for consideration. IF the Sox can come up with another starter (Clayton Richard need not apply…) what about moving Contreras to middle relief?

If you look at how he’s performing he seems to do very well for two, three, four innings then loses it.

Middle relief might be to his advantage and the team’s since that area is a black hole right now. Of course would the Sox want to pay ten million to a three inning guy?

Just a thought.

Mark Liptak

Ugh, I just got home from a meeting, things were not looking too bad, I left the computer for a few seconds, and now things look *really* bad!!

Come on, Sox, score lots of runs, and win this one!

Go Sox!

Peggy

I just got an e-mail from one of the Sox beat writers advising me to “stay tuned” regarding Contreras.

Apparently he is going to be watched closely by Ozzie, Cooper etc. changes may be forthcoming.

We’ll see…but that middle relief possibility could be an option.

Mark Liptak

First of all, Kyle Davies is a pretty good young pitcher. I’d take him on my staff any day.

Secondly, the Sox are not the only team to struggle against pitchers that are new or they haven’t seen before. This is common in baseball. Now I will agree that the Sox tend to take a little longer to finally get an idea about said pitchers, but every team seems to need a few looks before finally getting comfortable against newcomers.

TC:

Keep believing that if you wish to. Free country.

I’ve seen this way, way more this decade with the “home run or nothing” White Sox then other teams.

Adding insult to injury this evening, Mark Gonzales writes that this kid isn’t even considered a top prospect in the Baltimore farm system, the Sox (naturally) made him look like the second coming of Tom Seaver.

Right now other teams in the division are getting gutted by injury. The Twins now have five players and four pitchers on the DL (Jesse Crain just added today), the Tigers have three pitchers on the DL, K.C. put Alex Gordon on the shelf for two months a few days ago.

The Sox are healthy and need to make hay right now.

Performances like this evening’s aren’t accomplishing that need.

Remember, the Sox have a road trip from hell coming up in the second half. Boston, the Yankees, Minnesota…ten games. They are going to need all the cushion they can get.

Mark Liptak

I’m happy that debacle from last night is over. Note to self: be careful what you wish for. I couldn’t wait for the game to start and wanted the rain to stop. Now I wish the game was rained out. Only thing to do is throw last nights game out and get ready for tonights challenge. We need to win this game to ensure ourselves a winning road trip. I’ll see you all later on…. Go Sox’09…j.k.

Hoping for a quick recovery from last night… and why is everyone so angry at the Prez? Jeesh.
–Jeff
http://redstatebluestate.mlblogs.com/

Mark,

All I said was that other teams also struggle with new pitchers. If you would have read a little more closely, you would have noticed that I agreed that the Sox seem to struggle more than the other teams.

And I made no mention of the “Home run or nothing offense.” I know that you obsess on that phrase — like so many other phrases — but I did not bring up that topic.

You may be the only guy in America who worries that one loss in April in Baltimore puts more pressure on a 10-game road trip in the second half of the season.

Do you even remember the weekend in St. Pete? When the Sox scored a lot of runs and had a lot of hits — and not all of them were home runs????????

Or are you still waiting on another email from a beat writer to tell you about that???

T.C.:

Sounds like someone is a little “cranky” today eh? Well get some sleep, you’ll feel better.

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Sure it’s “one loss” to a rookie and there was “one loss” to whatever you consider Kyle Davies and “one loss” to R.A. Dickey…and next week it will be “one loss” to another mediocre stiff. Before you know it you’ve got five losses or ten losses to bad pitchers before June 1st.

IT ADDS UP. (I know you know how to add so I’m sure you get the point…) And those games MATTER in the second half and down the stretch.

Don’t take my word for it, take Paul Konerko’s who was quoted the week before the season started saying the tried and true bromide: “You can’t win a pennant in April but you can lose one.”

It just royally angers me when people keep saying “well it’s only one loss…” It was a lousy performance to a pitcher that should have been ripped apart because he was naturally (being human) nervous.

Like I said it’s a free country, if you want to think “its one loss” (times how many when all is said in done) that’s your right. Other teams are losing key players, the Sox have lost…well basically nothing, DeWayne Wise, and aren’t taking advantage of the opportunity.

They are a mediocre team right now (and I didn’t need a beat writer telling me that) That’s what I see.

And yes I did notice your comment about the Sox losing to some bad pitchers this season, almost knocked me right out of my chair. Coming from someone who thinks you should “tip your cap” to every bum that an opponent trots out there I was sincerely impressed.

Yes I am fully understanding of the runs scored in Tampa.

Here’s some news for you (feel free to check the numbers yourself)

Before the Tampa series began the Sox scored a total of 42 runs on the season, 20 came directly via the home run. That’s 48%.

AFTER the Tampa series the Sox had scored a total of 70 runs on the season, 33 came directly via the home run.

Ummm…that’s 48%

You were saying?

Nothing has changed with this offensively philosophy, as of right now, despite all the comments and quotes again this past off season.

Mark Liptak

They live and die via the home run as they have this decade, save for 2005 when they won a World Series fueled in a large part by a balanced offense that took advantage of pitchers… from ace’s to All Stars to journeyman to rookies.

Mark Liptak

Geesh, we really need to win a game. When the Sox win, there’s a couple sentences, sometimes even positive, from Liptak. When they lose, he needs to explain everything to use using many many words.

I may just start rooting for wins for that reason alone.

Well aside from the “not being able to hit rookie pitchers” talk, I’m more concerned about Contreras. I was only able to watch the first part of the game last night and it was obvious he doesn’t have control of his splitter (his main weapon). I’m glad Contreras is healthy enough to pitch again, but it doesn’t look like he’s ready to pitch well just yet, and it will take some time for his form to return. No wins, 3 losses, and an 8.04 ERA speaks for itself. I hope he turns it around soon or he very well may be headed to that previously mentioned middle-reliever role. The question is, who takes his place in the rotation then?

Well aside from the “not being able to hit rookie pitchers” talk, I’m more concerned about Contreras. I was only able to watch the first part of the game last night and it was obvious he doesn’t have control of his splitter (his main weapon). I’m glad Contreras is healthy enough to pitch again, but it doesn’t look like he’s ready to pitch well just yet, and it will take some time for his form to return. No wins, 3 losses, and an 8.04 ERA speaks for itself. I hope he turns it around soon or he very well may be headed to that previously mentioned middle-reliever role. The question is, who takes his place in the rotation then?

Well aside from the “not being able to hit rookie pitchers” talk, I’m more concerned about Contreras. I was only able to watch the first part of the game last night and it was obvious he doesn’t have control of his splitter (his main weapon). I’m glad Contreras is healthy enough to pitch again, but it doesn’t look like he’s ready to pitch well just yet, and it will take some time for his form to return. No wins, 3 losses, and an 8.04 ERA speaks for itself. I hope he turns it around soon or he very well may be headed to that previously mentioned middle-reliever role. The question is, who takes his place in the rotation then?

Well aside from the “not being able to hit rookie pitchers” talk, I’m more concerned about Contreras. I was only able to watch the first part of the game last night and it was obvious he doesn’t have control of his splitter (his main weapon). I’m glad Contreras is healthy enough to pitch again, but it doesn’t look like he’s ready to pitch well just yet, and it will take some time for his form to return. No wins, 3 losses, and an 8.04 ERA speaks for itself. I hope he turns it around soon or he very well may be headed to that previously mentioned middle-reliever role. The question is, who takes his place in the rotation then?

Well aside from the “not being able to hit rookie pitchers” talk, I’m more concerned about Contreras. I was only able to watch the first part of the game last night and it was obvious he doesn’t have control of his splitter (his main weapon). I’m glad Contreras is healthy enough to pitch again, but it doesn’t look like he’s ready to pitch well just yet, and it will take some time for his form to return. No wins, 3 losses, and an 8.04 ERA speaks for itself. I hope he turns it around soon or he very well may be headed to that previously mentioned middle-reliever role. The question is, who takes his place in the rotation then?

Well aside from the “not being able to hit rookie pitchers” talk, I’m more concerned about Contreras. I was only able to watch the first part of the game last night and it was obvious he doesn’t have control of his splitter (his main weapon). I’m glad Contreras is healthy enough to pitch again, but it doesn’t look like he’s ready to pitch well just yet, and it will take some time for his form to return. No wins, 3 losses, and an 8.04 ERA speaks for itself. I hope he turns it around soon or he very well may be headed to that previously mentioned middle-reliever role. The question is, who takes his place in the rotation then?

I’m really sorry for all those posts, but the site was screwing up on me.

“SOX WARS!” ….. Check daily as two of Chicagos most ardent fans pit their views against one another. Marvel at their ability to zing catch-phrases back at one another like a Matt Thornton heater. Laugh at their occasional attempts to be civil with each other. Cry as they continually pound each others views into dust. Gasp as they unite to fend off the overtures of “the other” contributor(s) to this venue…..

Hi Guys!…. Go Sox’09….. jag(just a game), j.k…….. What??!! just a game? The heretic, off with his index fingers….. Later all……

After last night’s game, I have come to the following conclusions…

1) The White Sox had, always have had, and always will have trouble with a pitcher they’ve never seen before… that is as old as the hills…

2) (and most importantly) I DO NOT NEED MICRO ANALYSIS FROM BILL JAMES OR MARK LIPTAK OR ANY OTHER “EXPERT” TO MAKE UP MY MIND ABOUT HOW THIS TEAM LOOKS OR HOW IT PERFORMS… AS AN OLD MAN, I HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE UP MY OWN MIND…

3) The lasix surgery did wonders to finally get rid of “Space Mountain” Mac Dougal… He is the latest “rag arm” to be envailed as the fraud he is, stealing money for providing mediocre talent…

Maria:

I’m an exact guy. I try to deal in facts, that’s the way I make my living. When someone makes a claim that’s wrong I can say ‘you’re wrong…’ like a lot of folks or I can back it up with facts.

I can get a parrot to say ‘you’re wrong…’ Any fool can say, “so and so sucks…” but WHY are you wrong?, WHY does so and so suck? I think more of an individual who can show me why I’m wrong or point out things that I’m missing.

That’s called learning. I assumed everyone felt that way. Guess not…that helps explain why the world’s in the shape it’s in, I guess.

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Oh by the way, I generally only post a few lines when the Sox win because I expect them to win. That’s what they get paid for. I don’t believe in praising someone for doing something they are supposed to be doing in the first place.

Praise comes from doing something beyond what you should be doing. Just my opinion.

Mark Liptak

If you deal in facts, I’ll correct you this one time, it’s Marie, not Maria.

And do you seriously expect them to win every game?

MariE

JK,

Thanks for your post which reminds me of my new Sox-year’s resolution of not letting Liptak’s endless negative and repetitive posts get me riled up. Obviously, I have failed miserably with this resolution.

But I will give it another shot. I’ll try to beat this “disease” I have of paying attention to the posts from Idaho. I’ll do everything I can. Who knows, maybe I will be able to “hit a home run” and overcome this problem.

Whoops, sorry, if I “hit a home run,” I’m just living the problem. My bad.

Go Sox, ’09!!! (to steal one of your endless but POSITIVE lines!!!!)

Lip: I’m MariA. With an “A”. MariE (with an “E”) is someone entirely different. Just want to set that fact straight.

Have fun with your flame war. God knows, this bystander is quite amused!

*sigh* boys will be boys…

Yeah, Ames, and girls will be girls. I seem to remember a whole thread of posts during a road night game last year when all you dames were talking about was when you were gonna take your bras off!!!!!!!!!!!!

TMI, Ames, TMI.

Ah, yes. :D Touche.

WHAT? All-Star Game voting already?!?! Dear god, with it starting this early, I’ll easily be able to eclipse my record of 200 paper and countless internet votes cast last year! Ai-carumba!

TQ –

Please don’t mention a great Disney ride (space mountain) in the same sentence with MacDON’Tgal. As a former Disney cast member, I take offense to that! :)

If anything, call him Scotty MacDougal (and picture this in your best Mike Myers fake-Scottish accent)

Ozzie: Get it over the plate!
Scotty MacDougal: I can’t dewww it coptain. I jus don ‘av the pwerrrrr

Ok – and now you call can call me “left field”, because that’s just about where that came from…

aj

Thou shalt not use the name Scottie (any spelling variation) in vain. Just declare him GONE from the roster!

Yep, those first two weeks of the season are really critical to All-Star voting.

Of course, fans vote in the guys who play the first two or three innings. Then the guys who DESERVE to play in the game will take over and the American League will win once again.

And, of course, we’ll hear all the griping about how the All-Star Game shouldn’t determine home field in the World Series. After, that has become as much of a ritual as the game itself.

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