Wednesday in Baltimore
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Today's Lineup
OC, SS; AJ, C; Q, LF; JD, RF; Thome, DH; PK, 1B; Alexei, Missile; Swish, 1B; Uribe, 3B. Danks pitching.
Finally
Jim Thome and his dad, Chuck, are scheduled to visit the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY, tomorrow on our off day. Jim will deliver the baseball from his 500th home run and tour the Hall with his dad.
If you remember, Jim and his dad tried to reach Cooperstown in January/February, but were snowed out.
Finally
Interesting news on the media front in Chicago.
I am going to refrain from commenting, but do know that what I am hearing on the street is much different than the public spin from my favorite columnist. It seems to be much more about who got to write today's column on Obama than the Chinese revelation that newspapers are failing.
No matter your reaction to the news, this (from Crain's) has to be one of the greatest "see you later" quotes ever from a boss to an exiting employee:
"The Chicago Sun-Times had the best sports section in the city before Jay Mariotti came to town -- that's why he signed up with us -- and his departure does not change that," Sun-Times Editor Michael Cooke said in a statement Wednesday. "We wish Jay well and will miss him -- not personally, of course, but in the sense of noticing he is no longer here, at least for a few days."
What a great quote, Thanks for sharing, Scott. Now, it's about time for tonights game to start, so get to it Boys and pluck the Birds... Go White Sox.. j.k.
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Yea, so long Jay!!
lets complete the sweep!!
go sox!!!
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No Q? Enjoy your day off.... Pick up the slack Guys, Go JohnnyD, Go Sox... j.k.
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Where is Carlos?
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got a well deserving night off weeden.
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Twins just won, so we need to keep pace by winning also. Go White Sox.... j.k.
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Hello all!!!
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Alright Paulie.... j.k.
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YEA!!!!!
Nice shot there PK!!
Your turn Griff!!
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wtup kris
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same ole same ole, in front of the computer every night, don't know what to do with myself when they're off . . . hoping we're gonna win this easily tonight, so far not looking too good on the easy part!
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JohnnyD not looking so sharp so far... Come on Boys, pick him up.... Go White Sox '08... j.k.
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agreed, hopefully danksy sharpens up and the bats get active.
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markakis has a gun there JT
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It looks like we're itching to hit. We just need to stay patient and all will be well. Another good baserunning play by our favorite "cheater" AJ, to get into third on that hot smash by JD. Now is the time JohnnyD to set them down... Go Sox... j.k.
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There's the bat signing story from last night, it was the bat NIck fouled the ball off of himself with so they 'retired' it because it hurt him! They all signed it, guess it's all his now! :)
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is that really what happened with the bat?
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Here's the story about the "bat" from last night. Uribe was getting a bat signed by everyone on the bench, and from what Buck Martinez said "Ozzie told me that the bat was the one that Swish hit his shin with. Uribe said that bat's no good for you anymore, so we are going to retire it". ..
Come on Danks, hold these guys and wait for our Boys to start hitting this over 7 era pitcher.... Go Sox... j.k.
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That is the story.
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rburt, online, we're hearing the opposing announcers, not sure if Hawk and Dj even noticed it or talked about it.. these guys just thought it was strange that during a game Uribe was asking people to sign a bat.
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Crede makes that play.
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I agree with you jwesley. We're still in this game, so now would be a grand time for a few hits... Go White Sox.. j.k.
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O.K. Now we got them where we want them. Hold the O's and we win...
From the O's announcers: AJ was voted the player most people wanted to see beaned, in a recent SI article... Big surprise.... Go Sox.. j.k.
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yea kris, im watching online too, but i must of missed the two announcers talking about it. I did see it last night though.
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what the hell was that?
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That bloop hit was ******* ridiculous. if griffey can't catch that he shouldn't be out there. That was just awful. I like Griffey a lot and he has hit well lately but he should not be a center fielder if he can't make that play. BRUTAL
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I didn't see Jr. call for that. Ramirez needs to make that catch.
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And BA or Swish makes that catch in center......... I guess the stats showed we had this game, so it's not really necessary to play it...... ARGH...... Come on Sox.... j.k.
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a ****** play like that may have just taken us out of contention to win this game. the sticks better get hot in a hurry
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rburt, they casually mentioned it but were laughing about it, I miss a lot too online, hard to stay glued to the screen all night some nights.
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unbelievable, absolutely un*******believable
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yes it is kris, starting to get a monitor burn on my face.
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I like how Gary and Buck are trying to get ribs sent up to them.
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Well when your pitcher only goes 4 innings you shouldn't be winning that game anyway. On to Fenway...disgusted
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We were getting ahead of most of their hitters, but couldn't put them away, and to their credit, they were able to find holes. So far they want this game more than we do, BUT that can change.... Go Sox.. j.k.
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Hey Kenneth, not sure if you realized, but there's three innings left.
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Sounds like they finally got their ribs.
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ya know im just not sure that lance is a middle relief kinda guy. this sucks losing to these birds.
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the ribs sound good . . . this game is causing me to get very sleepy tonight, we need to move it along with some more runs..... lots of em!
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Come on White Sox, Hold your heads up and go for a win. It's not too late yet,,,, j.k.
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Yah it really looks like they are going to make a comeback. They look like crap tonight. Chalk it up to a bad day. Only problem is I have to live with this loss through tomorrows off day. I hate off days.
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We all have to live through this sad (so far) effort. The line-up was a bit screwy, we couldn't get a timely hit, and JohnnyD looked bad tonight. All adds up to a 2-2 record in Baltimore.... That's what I thought we'd have, but I expected the Twins to win two in Seattle, so I guess we gained a game anyway.... j.k.
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this blows tonight, 'bout to just turn it off and head to bed.... that sleepy for some reason... yikes
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Another ball Crede would have had.
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Uncle, Uncle.... I will follow the lead of our Boys in grey.... Have a good night everybody and a great day off, and get ready for the Red Sox of Fri..... j.k.
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Wesley shut up you with the Crede woulda had it bull crap. He leads the league in errors and he isn't the same crede from a few years ago. He has been pretty awful this year actually. He isn't going to "have it" if he can't bend over. It wouldn't make me sad if I never saw him in a Sox jersey again...until the year 2025 when they celebrate the 20 year anniversary of the 2005 world championship
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Kenneth my friend, did you miss the last two games? I think he was bending over just fine. Enough with the selective memory already. And why exactly are you in love with Uribe? When's the last season he had any offensive production. Oh that's right, 2004. He's a good backup, but that's it.
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kenwo, I really don't understand your need to be so pissy with Crede or anyone who mentions they like him better or whatever. . . doesn't matter who 'could've got it', what does matter is that nobody got it that time... no matter who the hell it was... you wanna be a total Crede hater, I'd prefer you'd do it more quietly! If anybody needs to shut up, perhaps it's you.
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Oh Broadway, this is brutal.
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Just got back from my kids Open House at school - WOW - we are getting Rocked!!
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As I was reading all the comments and catching up, my 6 year old says to me "UH, Mom, I don't think the Sox are going to win"
I taught him how to read the score the other day!
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First of all....you know that isn't going to happen.
Second of all he is the one who keeps saying who would have had it and who didn't
Third of all I can hate whoever the hell I want and I will indeed make it known
Crede
Konerko
Podsednik
Rowand
Neal Cotts
Boone Logan
John Wesley
krisv
Riefert for saying Quentin is in the line up tonight. I left him in my fantasy line up and he didn't play...I expect you to be on top of things for god sake
My co-workers for cranking the ******* air conditioning
Now lets get the Red Sox for god sakes
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Where's the LOVE tonite?
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I understand you are frustrated with the loss, but we're all on the same team! We have to be a team here, stay as one, love each other!! It doesn't matter who could or didn't catch it - I don't think we would of won if Juan did catch it - but then again I don't know I only caught the last 2 innings!!
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OK - let's move on to another more controversial subject - I heard the ****** cubs will be on the score tomorrow, because some crap that their station is doing something else?
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WTF!!
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PLEASE, SOMEONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION!
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WHY THE **** IS THE SCORE WHITE SOX RADIO, WHEN ALL THEY TALK ABOUT ARE THE ****** CUBS???????????
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I REALLY HATE,HATE,HATE,HATE HATEHATE HATE HATE HATE THE CUBS AND THEIR FANS!!!!-
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Now, I feel better, Thanks!
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I believe it is the Bears who will be on the score tomorrow..
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Bad, bad loss. Garbage pitcher with a high ERA who walks five guys in five innings...yet only allows two runs.
This one hurts plenty.
Mark Liptak
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Is it the Bears? OK sorry about the post - but, I still HATE the Cubs and their Fans!!
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Eh liptak i would rather get cranked like this than lose in the 9th or something. Not going to win every game.
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Oh Kenneth, tell us something we don't know. You know, you're pointless ramblings are starting to bore me. You just keep yelling the same things over and over. I know you think Uribe is a first ballot hall of famer, so I'm just going to remind you of what he's done since '04.
2005: .252 AVG / .301 OBP
2006: .235 / .257
2007: .234 / .284
2008: .236 / .289
Hey guess what, the first three guys on your list up there have all outperformed that.
Now go have a good nights sleep, and think about something new to banter about tomorrow night.
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*Correction
The first FOUR guys on your list.
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BTW, shouldn't you have known something was up with the lineup after seeing two guys listed at first base?
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Now let's don't get too worked up about one bad loss on the road. In 162 games, everybody has a few of these.
Forget about it, move on to the next series and try to cool off Boston and get 2 of 3.
Still up a game. I guarantee the players won't let this loss get them down. It will be forgotten by the time they wake up tomorrow.
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Mrs K - there is no love from Kenwo, ever! He is starting to sound like my teens... on and on and on, with nothing to talk but smack.. why do you even support this team kenwo?
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I used to tell him that he sounds like my 8 year old cousin. I don't think he cares tho.
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i don't think so either . . .
on to Friday, whatever will we do tomorrow night! :)
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I have been one of the most positive bloggers all year. Before the season started I said they would win the division. Everyone else was all over cleveland and detroit. i wasn't even negative tonight. annoyed yes...negative no. You two are tools and don't hold a candle stick to fine bloggers like Klien, Mike Devereaux, Maria, Lisa, Donna and myself. Hell even Quaid, TC and Liptak bring something to the table. All Wesley says is "crede would have had it" and all Krisv says is "i am here staring at my computer screen with nothing to do"... If you don't like it get comcast and order the MLB Package for god sake so i dont have to hear you moaning about it every night.
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OK, lets be honest: we all have our little ways and "usual subjects" to comment about. Liptak has random facts and stats, jen talks about her family, etc. Kenwo, you complain about mackowiak and dote on uribe. We all can choose to read what we want, and comment on what we want. Nothing should be personal - we are all on the same team! In the grand scheme of life, this ranks as fairly trivial...
Everyone take a chill pill, it was only a loss. Do you really want to be fighting over nothing, especially with an off day tomorrow?
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Wow Kenneth, you are so right, that is all I say. I just went back and read all of my posts over the last couple of months and that is the only sentence I have ever said on here. Wow, thanks for enlightening me of my ways.
Seriously tho, way to read back about ten whole comments and suggest that those are the only things Kris and I have ever said. It use to be that you were just immature, but now you are bringing your intelligence into question as well. I like how your only defense to people calling you out on something is to just scream louder, and make even more ridiculous statements. Congrats on being a grown up.
I just hope for the sake of your students that you are a completely different person while in the classroom.
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As someone who is not a big fan of Uribe I think he did a very good job filling in at a position where he had limited experience. Is he as good as Crede defensively? No, but the current Joe Crede is not as good as the pre 2007 Joe Crede. So it is probably a wash. I'm not backing Kenwo and say keep Uribe on as the 3rd basemen of the future, but we will never see the real Joe Crede again.
It was also nice to see how hungry Uribe was to play. A lot of guys after getting benched would just dog it when they get time, and just wait to move on to a new team the next season. That says a lot about Juan as a person and teammate.
I would expect to see someone signed through free agency. I used to think Fields was the future, but his play and injury problems now have me thinking otherwise. I appreciate the individual contributions of both Uribe and Crede, but I can't see either one as a long term answer.
Had there been a clear picture on Crede's health the Sox may have dealt for Adrian Beltre from Seattle. They were really trying to get rid of him at the deadline.
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Thanks scotties for a voice of reason.....
I know he's not (by admission) 35 years old, yet but I WAS planning on writing in kenwo for president...... kenwo, buddy, you're breaking my heart with your recent rancor..........NO MORE MUD SLINGING!!!!!!
Go White Sox... j.k.
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Griffey Jr. can not be put in center any more. I can recall a couple plays tonight that he did not make. He is my second favorite non-Sox player behind Cal Ripken Jr, but he is NOT a center fielder any more. I know it limits his playing time if he is only spelling the corner outfielders and Thome, but he is a liability defensively. You can tell he is afraid to get hurt again every time he pulls up and lets a ball fall in front of him. I love the guy, but we got him about 10 years and 4 or 5 injuries too late.
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Mike D.. I agree with you on both counts. When Griffey is in center you gotta hope the ball is hit at him. If the ball is in front of him he does not go after it. Sure this may not happen every game, and you don't notice him every game, but yesterday that ball should have been caught easily. Even if he did catch it we lose, but it would have kept us in it more.
As far as Uribe, Crede and Fields goes...you are not going to sign Crede to a deal that is any longer than 1 year. If any team gives him 4 years they are out of their minds. Fields isn't ready to become a third baseman...i still think they should try him at first. Uribe probably is not your answer to start next season at third either- but I would rather have him than the other two. Adrian Beltre would be a nice addition....but i dont know how many quality third basemen will be available.
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There's something wrong with your list of fine bloggers . . . you figure out what it is.
I won't get comcast because well, when you have others in the home it's called compromise, my husband prefers what we have and since he's the general bread winner it's whatever he wants, he does give it up on wgn days so really... your point is mute although I do appreciate you insight on to what's available with the mlb package. Really, I do!
As far as my complaining about 'nothing to do' apparently you've never really read my statements in any great depth. I've discussed many many things with others thruout the night just because you choose not to read into them isn't my fault. So I don't know stats, so the hell what, I'm not an encyclopedia of info. I personally love Uribe, I always have, I never trash him nor do I jump on the Crede bandwagon everytime there is one rolling even though I like him too... I don't frankly care to trash anybody on our team to a point where it's downright mean. Sometimes the things you say are really mean and I'm just stating my opinion that 'hating' someone isn't supportive of the team.
Scotties 22 is right though, arguing with you is pointless since you never appear wrong . . . but in fact we're all on the same team.. so I'll continue to disagree with you and I'll continue to 'moan' about my computer watching even though I don't really recall doing it and frankly, I believe I'll just ignore whatever stuff you sling because well... I'm taking the high road and gettin out of the gutter . . . JohnW and I among others like it up here.....
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A quick question: Who would you rather play on the road? Oakland or Boston?
Ooh, ooh, pick me, pick me, I know this one! Of course if you said Oakland, you'd be correct. Still, even with the Twins playing the A's and us going against the Red Sox, we have no choice but to play the games and see what happens after the weekend is over.
Awhile back I compared our schedule with that of the Twins and wrote down what I expected to happen. So far I'm a game back of where I thought we'd be: I thought we'd win two from TB and split with Balt. We lost two to TB and got the ugly split....
I thought the Twins would split with the Angels and they did. I was expecting them to win two from the Mariners, but they only won one. So far this road trip has maintained the status quo.
Moving ahead, I forsee us winning one vs. the Red Sox, and two against the Indians, while I had the Twins going 3-1 vs. Oakland and 1-2 against the Jays.
If all the above happens, we will be 1/2 game ahead of Minn. come Tuesday morning. Well, that's not much of a lead, so somehow we simply have to take both these upcoming series and go from there. Prove me wrong Boys, play like champions and you will BE champions.... Go White Sox.... j.k.
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wow Klein, I like the way you keep track of things, makes it easier on those of us that just don't seem to have the time... what's your opinion on this instant replay?
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Instant replay is a wonderful tool.... use it. I wouldn't just use it for home run calls though. Give each Manager the chance to "throw the red flag" once during a game. How many times do managers come out on the field to express their views vs. an umpires call? Once or twice a week? Probablly much less. So in my opinion, any call is fair game, whether it be a home run or botched play at second or a trapped ball in the outfield, anything. The time of a game would not be affected, since the manager would request a replay instead of yelling and then getting tossed.
The strike zone must be standardized by electronic means, period. Let "K" zone or something like it make the ball and strike calls. No more favorable interpretations of the strike zone, but a REAL strike zone. The home plate umpire would still be there for all plays at the plate. Batters and pitchers alike would NOT be able to complain about the strike zone any longer. period!
Fair and equitable rules will make the game move along faster and then the talent on the field won't be held hostage to the whims of the Umpires..... That's my two cents worth (that's about all it's worth too).... Go Sox.. j.k.
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For the record - I don't talk about my family anymore - unless it is about the WS. I know you guys miss it (especially on these days off) - but - I will honor Jim (Mike) D. What is his real name?
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Just one quick comment about the list of players that Kenwo admits to hating.
I guess he must not have enjoyed the 2005 World Series Championship because . . . . . .
Crede got more game-winning and clutch hits than anyone in that magical season and played a tremendous third base. His HR in the extra-inning home win over Cleveland late in the season stopped a tailspin that nearly drove even Tom Quaid to jump off the ledge.
Konerko was the most productive offensive player of that season and his hot bat made it possible for the starting pitchers to easily throw complete game wins in Anaheim in the ALCS.
Rowand was the emotional leader, the glue in center field and a critical piece of that team.
And Podsednik .... Well without him, there is no division title, no pennant and no World Series rings. He set the table, he made it possible to manufacture runs, and he was the most improbable author of the most important and memorable home run in the history of the franchise.
Granted, Podsednik was not much help after 2005 due to injuries, but he was the difference between a good team and a championship team for that one season.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming, already in progress . . . . . . . .
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jk - With your accuracy can you also please predict the lotto numbers?
I agree with your predictions for the next couple series'. Bascially I don't see either team grabbing much more than a 1 or 2 game lead the rest of the way. I was shocked when the Twins lost and gave the Sox a 2 game lead the other day.
TC - Don't forget about Neal Cotts in 2005. He was lights out all year. Like Podsednik he busted out the next year, but he was a huge piece of the bullpen. He does not like Pods because it cost Carlos Lee to get him. Granted it was a trade that boggled my mind at the time, but without that first half Pods had in 2005 we never would have had that huge lead to play with in the second half of the season. And boy did we play with it, damn near lost it.
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Yeah, Cotts did have a great 2005 season. Relievers, though, are prone to having great years, then really bad ones. Look at Cliff Politte. It happens all around baseball. Relievers cannot be figured out.
Kenwo loved Carlos Lee so I know that is why he hated Pods. But face it, without Pods there is simply no chance of a 2005 banner flying at the Cell.
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Wow, this has turned into an adult day care center.
Interesting dialogue about days gone by.....unfortunately they are days gone by........this is 2008, not 2005.
before we toss uribe out and debate whether or not he gets to a ball, remember that position players set themselves based on how the pitcher will pitch to a given batter. danks missed his marks all night, so if uribe or even crede is playing off the line and the pitch misses and its pulled down the line, NOBODY makes the play....NOBODY. When CREDE was healthy he was GOLDEN, the best at his position....unfortunately the facts for 2008 paint a different picture of Joe. Before he was hurt, he led the American League in ERRORS at 3B... 19.....so before we debate whether he can or can't get to a ball....you might remember that.....I wish it wasn't true, but it is.......
so all this comparision based on how players performed several years ago is just mind numbing rhetoric.
let's hope to boys get rested up.....i'd love to see us take 2 of 3 in Boston.....Go Sox.....
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soxblog, etc... Funny you should bring up taking two of three in Boston ... what a set-up... Thank you very much...
I was doing some figuring after the game... They currently are 76 and 57... There are 9 series remaining, 7 of three games each, 2 with 4 games in September... Toronto here and then the last visit to East 161st Street and South River Avenue, Fort Apache, the South Bronx... the House that Ruth Built and the City rebuilt... (I digress briefly here... everyone and their grandmother is mourning the passing of Yankee Stadium after this year... WHY??? THEY'RE GOING ACROSS THE DAMNED PARKING LOT TO BUILD THE NEW ONE --- SAME DAMNED THING THAT THE WHITE SOX, BREWERS AND CARDINALS DID... BUT BECAUSE IT'S THE YANK-MES DOING IT... IT'S A BIG DEAL...)
Now that I've gotten THAT rant out of me... no visible scars, by the way... If the White Sox continue to take 2 out of every three games, and maybe 3 out of four in the other series... they wind up with 96 and 66... which would definitely see them in the post season... If they take two of three, and split the other two series... that still gives them 94 and 68, which, you would think, make them also eligible for the post season...Heaven forfend they should go "into the tank" and make us all sadder than sad... Let's not even THINK that...
For those of you in the area... pick up and read Phil Rogers' column in the Tribune today about why the Flubs should avoid the Sox in October... I think it would also be on that Teddy Greenstein approved (???) Internet site... www.chicagotribune.com... As well, pick up the Weathervane less S-T today and read the sidebar column by Chris De Luca from Baltimore about the reaction to Jay's departure... I am surprised he has any skin left on his fingertips, with all of the acid and bile he let go with...
By the way, does anyone know what happened to Joe Cowley?... I noticed that Rongey has been doing the segment with the beat boys on the road with Mark Gonzales the last few times out on the radio... I hope that the cancer has not gotten to Joe... that he is just doing chemo...
kenwo... Thanks for admitting that sometimes I bring something to the table every so often... I can see that my carpal tunnel syndrome has not been in vain...
Jennifer: Your most Royal Majesty... I do not understand why you rant and rave so at the Score... I do not know what event would preempt the other stations... perhaps it is the Northwestern football game Saturday... as the Flubs are playing during the day as well... and NU wants to have a listening audience for their initial tilt... the Score provides them with that outlet...
All I say is this... Outside of the pre game and the game itself, I do NOT listen to local sports talk radio here in town... because there are too many dopes who think they know everything when they know jack... and there are too many dopes out there who want to hear themselves on the radio for their 7 seconds of fame...SPARE ME, PLEASE !!!
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"You two are tools and don't hold a candle stick to fine bloggers like Klien, Mike Devereaux, Maria, Lisa, Donna and myself. Hell even Quaid, TC and Liptak bring something to the table."
This is funny, bloggers arguing over who's cooler than the other. Let's argue over who plays dungeons and dragons better next.
Dan
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Tom:
Cowley's wife had another child and I believe he had another cancerous mole removed. He's on chemo and is expected to return on September 1st.
Try this story as well:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/2008/08/my_take_on_jay_leaving.html
Mark Liptak
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Roger Ebert weighs in:
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080828/COMMENTARY/808289997
Mark Liptak
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Read this article in the BostonGlobe.com Becket scratched from pitching tomorrows game agains the White Sox
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Link|Comments (0) Posted by Dan Shaughnessy, Globe Staff August 28, 2008 04:46 PM
Red Sox starter Josh Beckett has been scratched from his scheduled start tomorrow night and will be sent to see Dr. James Andrews in Alabama.
In a postgame interview, manager Terry Francona said Beckett was seeing Andrews as a precaution. There was no indication the tingling sensation he felt in his pitching hand had returned.
"I think the best word I can use is we're just trying to get some closure," Francona said. "We never want to send anyone out there that's not 100 percent. We're no more pessimistic about him today ..."
Beckett had been given the thumbs up to pitch Friday night at Fenway Park against the White Sox after his side session on Tuesday, but now will be pushed back for the second time in a week. He hasn't pitched since an Aug. 17 start in Toronto in which he gave up 8 runs in 2 1/3 innings.
"I think scary is probably a good word for it," Beckett said Wednesday. "I've had some sleepless nights thinking about all kinds of stuff. You generally think the worst."
Elbow tenderness and an awkward sleeping position may have contributed to the tingling, but no one claims to know the source of the problem.
"We're trying to figure out what's causing it and go from there," Beckett said Wednesday. "Right now it's just day to day and I'm dealing with it. We have a great medical staff. We're trying to be cautious. We're not talking about just the end of a season, but about the end of a career. Some organizations would do anything they could to get a player back out there. I appreciate what they are doing for me here."
The Globe's Dan Shaughnessy contributed to this report.
www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/
Does not say who will take his place. We'll have to wait and see. This is good news for the Sox I hope. depending on his relacement.
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Becket is scratched from starting Friday's game and Matzousaka is pushed back to Friday from Saturday to pitch against Javy.
A pitcher named Dave Pauley who is (0-0) with a 10.38 ERA will pitch Saturday agains Buehrle.
Has anybody heard anything about Pauley. I sure hope The Sox can hit him considering they probably have not seen him before, but his ERA is huge.???
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Pay no attention to the kid's ERA. He probably only has an appearance or two and one bad inning can jack up an ERA.
He probably has good stuff or the Red sxo wouldn't have called him up. Plus, the Sox hitters haven't seen him so he has an advantage there.
But you don't want to overanalyze a situation like this. Just show up, swing the bats and get the job done. The approach has to be the same no matter who is pitching.
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Tc's right! Look at what we did/didn't do against Liz yesterday. That guy had a 7* ERA and a BA against of something like .310 and all we could get were three hits and a couple of runs off him. If the Guys are swinging well, it doesn't matter who's pitching. First things first though, we need to bring it against Dice K... Go Sox.... j.k.
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TQ -
I was misinformed - the Cubs were not on the Score - the Bears were (just as bad) Thanks to Kenwo for the heads up!
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I don't take back my comments on how I feel about the Scrubs or the Score for that matter. I am so sick of getting in the car and all I hear is the Cubs this, the Cubs that. They advertise White Sox radio, all they talk about are the Cubs. I have never listened to the radio station the Cubs play on - take that back - I did once in Spring Training when they were playing the Sox, Ron Santo was announcing with whoever the other guy is - The one guy was ok - but Santo - terrible- I know alot of people feel bad for him, whatever- I just don't want to have to listen to him again!
Do they ever talk about the Sox? (on the Cubs Station?) As much as they talk about the Cubs on the Score?
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The Score is a chicago sports station of course they are going to talk about the cubs. wgn radio is a news station so they will mention the score of either teams games the night before. Personally I would rather hear the score talking about the cubs than the bears...after all this is baseball season
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The reason the Bears got moved to the Score tonight is because 780, being the news station they are, wanted to cover Obama's speech tonight.
Ron Santo was a very good if not great player. (I am not old enough to have seen him play, but will go on what I've been told) However he is one of the most painful announcers to listen to. I would take Singleton and DJ working together before ever having to listen to Santo. He is basically a mascot for the Cubs.
His partner, Pat Hughes deserves better. He is very good, and just gets dragged down by Santo. I hear lots of cuts of Santo during games on another station, and they just tear him apart. I do feel bad for the man though. He is sick, and probably won't be around much longer. I hope he can save some face and retire so he can enjoy the time he has left.
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Stop the presses!!! Ryan Sweeney just scored the winning run for the A's in the bottom of the ninth on a double by Kurt Suzuki....... Sleep well White Sox World.... j.k.
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Now it's good morning! I have a big day adead of me, and won't be able to join with you for our game later tonight. I know it's still 10 hour away, but after golf today I have stuff to do around the house, then bowling starts up tonight. The end result is I won't be here until after the game is done.....
You will have to carry on without me and bring home a White Sox Winner if at all possible. Be stout of heart and strong of limb and direct all your energies to the task at hand and there will be no stopping you.... Go Sox '08...... j.k.
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Thank goodness good ol' Klien was here to hold down the fort for that Oakland victory. I don't know about tonights sox game. First we play the BoSox...tough enough in its own right, then we face Dice K...makes it even tougher...and now i find out Klien is bowling tonight and won't be here to hold it down? Thats awful news. It will now take a miracle for a victory.
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O.K. kenwo, with all that flattery, I'm back on your side. Who said you can't buy votes? Anyway, now I'm really gone, Good luck Bloggers and Go White Sox.... j.k.
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kenwo - Some things for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj50-Iy2GCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zus_r9Z3_C0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjuAhvDSPII
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/51147-white-sox-orioles-joe-crede-makes-a-spectacular-return-in-sox-win
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This is for everyone-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbo6lrgDERA
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Read Ebert's goodbye to Marriotti, pretty classy and sums it up pretty well. Missed last couple games, but I'm guessing I didn't miss too much from the above postings ; ) Boston? I'm looking for 2 of 3. A real coup would be a sweep, who knows?
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Saw that game against Tampa last friday and spent the weekend with my cousin in Little Village. Took a pass on 'El Volkan' tho. Man I love Chicago, but dammit those Cubs. A buddy of mine was griping about playing a series against Arizona. I about smacked him..... Even ole 'Kevin' Cowherd (hello TQ) posed the question whether their playing in the National Little League was a contributing factor. He's the only one I've heard ask that.
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Phil Rogers column on the Sox having nothing to lose was a joke. The Cubs should be afraid of the all the top teams in the American league. And for the record I think the Rays got the least to lose, they got nothing, no fans, no money. They're playing for pride as far as I can tell. I would imagine that other than drama the Cubs should want to face the Sox for reason of the on again off again offense. We'll see I guess...
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Windy:
If the Cubs were to play Arizona in the first round, they'd have the "pleasure" of having to face Brandon Webb (probably N.L. Cy Young winner), Danny Haren and Randy Johnson 1-2-3. Not very easy no?
Personally I still think the brewers will win the N.L. pennant...Sabathia and Sheets can beat anybody, that's a big advantage because as we all know PITCHING WINS PENNANTS.
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Regarding this series, I'm in the broadcasting booth tonight for high school football so I hope the Sox can at least show up against a guy they had trouble hitting with a ten foot pole just two weeks ago.
This is a MAJOR series, very big. They are playing Boston at home and need to play well to keep the lead in the division but also to help in the wild card chase. Insurance never hurt anybody gang and that's what the wild card is.
Mark Liptak
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Lip:
Thanks for the update on Joe C. ... I will be talking to the Higher Authority about making his chemo a lot less strenuous... and making the new arrival's lifetime a thousand or more years...
Also, best wishes to you and your crew as you embark on yet another season of HS football broadcasts out there in Idaho...
HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL??? FOOTBALL AT ALL, IN LATE AUGUST??? GOOD LORD, DON'T YOU PEOPLE REALIZE IT'S STILL BASEBALL SEASON???
Back in the day... the football season did not start until, perhaps, mid-September... and it played 'second fiddle" to baseball until after the World Serious was over... at least it did as far as I was concerned...
jk... Good luck with your bowling tonight... just remember that the ball is a lot bigger...and it is SUPPOSED to go straight down the middle of the lane... like you wished all of your golf shots went...and instead of a hole, you're shooting at 10 other items to hit... unless you go Brooklyn(a term that old-time bowling fans would recognize...)...
Jen: My thoughts on the radio broadcast team on the North Side are these... The color commentators on WGN for the past 20 plus seasons, COMBINED, couldn't ad-lib "help" if they were drowning... they are NOT considered as professional broadcasters... Instead they are "icons" of the teams they played for and covered... Dick Butkus with the Bears, the late coach Ray Meyer at De Paul (not a player, but a coach forever)and, most aggresiously, Mr Santo...who thinks he's still on the bench, instead of a broadcast booth...
WGN Radio likes all of their sports announcers to have the same attributes... a good voice, somewhat of a knowledge about the sports they cover... and a massive dose of tunnel vision...in other words, "Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil." ...
That is why Steve Stone supposedly got in such hot water with the management and players at Clark and Addison a few seasons back... they felt he was a little too "strong" in his criticism of the players...
Hell, folks, they should have been considered fortunate that the late '70's Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall weren't around... Those two would have absolutely ROASTED those guys to a fine turn... and left nary a crumb to survive...
I know that WS fans have their problems and their gripes with Hawk especially... but the other side of the tracks...Pat Hughes, Len Kasper and Bob Brenly... well, let's put it this way...When something dramatic happens for their side, like the HR Ramirez hit last night is concerned, they get rightfully excited... but if the shoe is on the other foot, they sound as if someone shot their dog right in front of their eyes... they just reflect the feelings of the lemmings of Jurassic Park at Neverland...
Enough of my soapbox about the people north of Madison Street...
I have mixed feelings, as I always do, about the boys going into the Back Bay Fens for this weekend... Let's just hope that the news is good... because there are STILL four weeks left, beginning Sunday...
YOU HEAR THAT, FOOTBALL??? FOUR MORE WEEKS UNTIL THE END OF THE REGULAR SEASON... THEN FOUR WEEKS AFTER THAT... THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR LOUSY SEASON...
Geez, you'd think I was a baseball man, wouldn't you?
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And my above comments go DOUBLE for ANY and ALL of the local sports talk radio hosts... David Kaplan and Jim Memolo at 'GN... the local Cub apologizers... the mid-morning duo and the afternoon drive trio at AM 1000... and most ALL of the hosts/potential Zanies standup comics at the Score...
As written earlier, I will listen to the pre game and the game broadcasts themselves...NOTHING ELSE... because I do NOT need to have my intelligence insulted afterwards...
The national hosts at the radio branch of the Eastern Sports Propaganda Network are fine with me... because they have a NATIONAL agenda... not just a local ax to grind... and because they also do NOT, for the most part, take phone calls...
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Jen thanks for the wrestling videos of AJ....good stuff. I recently hung out with AJ when a few WWE wrestlers were in town on Monday the 18th. Hes a pretty good guy-picked up our tab.
As far as that Crede article goes- sure he may have glimpses of his old self but he will never sustain it for any length of time. A healthy bad back is a ticking time bomb to being unhealthy again. If you make one turn, twist or bend a little bit wrong you will be on the shelf another 2 weeks. He had a great month (2005) and year (2006) and had a good april this year....However I seriously doubt if he will ever again be able to achieve even 70 percent of his former self.
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OK TQ, I asked the one expert I know and he didn't have the answer. I know you will. Where did the expression "bean town" come from in speaking of Boston?
Marie
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Another interesting Mariotti column. Apparently he was doing things that would have immediately gotten you or I fired. (Nice management at the Sun-Times eh?):
http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/1134011,CST-NWS-stein29.article
Mark Liptak
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Ah, Liptak, we were both comparing series, I'd rather face Arizona than Boston. Bostons lineup is stacked top to bottom in addition to their pitching. Not easy, but I'd take my chances with Arizona...
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Boston Baked Beans?
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weeden, you're right, I just 'asked jeeves'.. that why it's beantown!!!
Sorry to disappoint some of you but I too will be at a hs football game tonight so you must go on without myself and Klein and Liptak... yikes.... hope this isn't a jinx! I get to root for the 'cleveland indians', you heard it right, the cleveland indians from Cleveland Texas.... friggin Texans can't figure out their own darn names so they have to steal someone elses!! :)
Bring in a win boys . . . GO SOX!
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kenwo-
I myself have 3 bulging discs in my lower back- not pressing on any nerves, yet, and 2 in my neck that are on my nerve. The doctor says its probably because I played sports my whole life and because of back-to-back-to-back pregnancies.
I could try the shots in my neck, but have not. I know about the twist or turn - your down for 2 weeks. Happen to me over the winter, I was in Costco and went to pick up something, and could not move. I couldn't move for a good week. Took another week to get back to where I was.
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I don't know the extent of Crede's back, I imagine pretty bad since he had surgery. I would think because of his resources, he can take care of it. I use to go to the chiropractor once a week - my back felt alot be